[galleo]

自己其實都想買數碼單鏡反光機,但係一諗到 canon d 機要 x1.6 之後..明明50mm 的標準鏡 變成8xmm的lens .就冇乜心機..
因為我自己喜歡影人像.....我自己想要wide 多過tele.....但一諗到要買d CANON L 的wide,之覺得好貴.

(1) 1Ds ........講笑咩......
(2) 買300d ...用個支WIDE 的來又平的EFs LENs....但係都唔知EFs D LENS FUTURE 會係點....

(3)唔用EFs lens,用EF LENS ,等一部有full size 的 DSLF 出現.......但係都唔知等到幾時...

都唔知點....

[LifeAfterDeath]

> 自己其實都想買數碼單鏡反光機,但係一諗到 canon d 機要 x1.6 之後..明明50mm 的標準鏡 變成8xmm的lens .就冇乜心機..
因為我自己喜歡影人像.....我自己想要wide 多過tele.....但一諗到要買d CANON L 的wide,之覺得好貴.

I think that 1.6x is a bad thing... but again... if you know that the prices of a CMOS with full size... the price will be way up and is unable 2 sell it @$8000-$15000... it will be around $30000...
anyway I think that u still wide lens and if you do get a 1.6x basic D-SLR... still use a 18-35mm L F2.8... even one day u do buy a 1Ds... u still need that to use... so I think u have nothing 2 lose...

> (1) 1Ds ........講笑咩......
.... hummm... I think if u not a Pro... don't buy 1Ds... same as Nikon user... never buy D2H unless u r a Pro...
I really think 10D is very good... maybe 300D as well... but personally I will never buy 300D(same as I will never buy D70-if is come out next year...)
I think 10D is a much better model...

> (2) 買300d ...用個支WIDE 的來又平的EFs LENs....但係都唔知EFs D LENS FUTURE 會係點....
the future of EFs... same questions I'm asking 4 my DX lens... =^_^=
I think that is the problem of the camera's owner... becux u can stick with a D-SLR with 1.6x 4 a long time... and slowly 2 buy all the L lens... =^_^=
trust me if u fully collect a set of L series lens... and getting closer 2 a Pro... then is the time to change 2 a full size CMOS D-SLR... (1Ds... or it will be call 1DHs =^_^=)

> (3)唔用EFs lens,用EF LENS ,等一部有full size 的 DSLF 出現.......但係都唔知等到幾時...
Is out already... 1Ds... =^_^=
I think u mean is a full size CMOS with the prices of 10D... I think maybe 2-3 yrs from now...

I really think that... why not get a D-SLR to start 10D or 300D... and collect some nice lens @ the same time... At least that is what I'm doing now... own a D100 and try to collect all the useful lens...

hope this can help u out =^_^=

[galleo]

Ha,first of all,thx for your reply~

LifeAfterDeath,

I would really like to know y you like to use Nikon instead of Canon.

For me,it's really a quite shitty reason because i just love the spelling of "canon" .Also ,for the reason of not buying a 300D ..it's just because i really can't accept i own a DSLR with a silver color.....

For the olymus E10 (or E1 .?..=.=)...i have already taken a look on the preview of this camara on dpreview.com .....What i am not satisfied most is the size of it's CCD senor.....it's smaller than what canon 's camara having...

Sometimes,i think the price of canon lens is really unreasonably high....i am not trying to say that the qulity of canon's lens are not good...but...sometimes..i really think ratio of performance/price is not high enough ....it may be due to i am not a pro la..ai..

Instead of trying my best to save money to get a L lens...i would prefer buying books about photography......i believe what i need most now is not a high-price equipment but a trained photography brain,right?
ha.

Do you have any idea regarding the future of D-SLR??
In my opinion,it will not be a far future that canon can produce a Full-size CMOS with the price of 10D.....However,problems arise....
If full-size CMOS can exist with a relatively low price.....EF-s will become less vaulable...!?? honestly speaking..i am really not so sure the advantage of EF-s lens (same for DX lens) except the relatively low price now...i knwo it's suitable for D-SLR ..but..nothing else.

[6x4.5]

你對sensor size既idea有唔正確

想知DSLR,不如你搵返之前有關Four Thirds System 既 topic 睇下

[galleo]

6x4.5,

"你對sensor size既idea有唔正確"

我只係話e1用的senor 比canon d series 的細 ?我想知道我邊一部分唔正確呢?? E-1 的senor 不是比canon d series 用緊的細嗎?? 對於 FOUR-THIRD SYSTEM 的 CONCEPT 我相信我自己不夠了解~
希望 6x4.5 兄夠糾正過來~~

[galleo]

"As the sensor area is 4 times larger than that found in the E-10 so four times the sensitivity and dynamic range."

點解個area 大左四倍,sensitivity 同 dynamic range 就可以大四倍...?
dynamic range 大四倍....聽落真係好吸引~~~

如果小弟有咩野錯的地方..真係要其他高手的指點~~ 'thx~

[mini_mashimaro]

其實ef-s 未來發展係點有咩所謂，佢支18-55咁平，都唔會有咩大損失o者。
我諗6x4.5兄係咪想話e-1都係full frame ccd 呢?

如果唔介意景深咪買支平平地28-105 個o的鏡玩lor
^^

[LifeAfterDeath]

to: mini_mashimaro
i agree with u...

[6x4.5]

"area 大左四倍,sensitivity 同 dynamic range 就可以大四倍...?"

你都係搵返之前 FourThirds System 個post睇下先啦

仲有, x1.6對我而言係一個好大問題,12-24mm既價小弟認為好貴,亦唔值.
講真個句,300D同300V根本大同小異,但係300D貴300V六千幾銀,值唔值就見仁見智,小弟覺得唔值....呢個價可以上 EOS 3/F100,甚至M記Dynax 7加一支唔錯既鏡了,點比?

我又唔明點解要用L鏡
用乜鏡全開光圈都一定唔會sharp,就算雞鏡,收到F5.6-F8亦有很好sharpness/contrast. 事實上如果唔係用正片/或者晒細過8R,你用乜鏡都無分別, 如果你要好sharp,咁你不如用prime lens

至於Zoom,反正大過4倍(注:35-70為2倍,35-210為6倍等)既zoom我未見過係好野 (不過Tamron支新鏡 24-135聽講唔錯,你可以試下)

點解用Nikon? 我都用Nikon. 我部FM,同我個friend部F50都跌左兩次, 依然健在,Canon? 呵.. 屋企個部己經不似人形... Canon賣廣告就勁, 消費級機built quality其實好差 (1,3等當然好) 你睇前排10D失焦事件,好明顯係未做好就急於推出市場 ... 一句講晒,無信心, 反而覺得NIkon/Olympus就慢工出細貨

其實相機係用既, 最近上國內網站見到SIGMA SD9既 sample, 有d心動....
真係好好好好靚...有slide既feel.

[galleo]

多謝"6x4.5","LifeAfterDeath","LifeAfterDeath"的reply.
令小弟學唔少野~

To 6x 4.5 ,

如果你唔介意的話，我想問你可唔可以教我點去欣賞 的朋友個張"希臘" 呢??因為睇完張相後，發覺自己唔係好識欣賞．．真係慚愧∼　＝．＝”
pm　我或者ｐｏｓｔ　在這裏都很歡迎∼　

　
　

[LifeAfterDeath]

I agree 2 6x4.5...
Olympus has a nice Camera... E-1...
The only problem with me is the lens... right now there is only 4 lens for E-1... so I decided that not 2 buy it 4 now... and one day if there is more than 20 lens... (50mm F1.4, 105mm F2, VR lens...)
maybe @ the time of E-2 come out... there will be more lens... so I guess I may buy Olympus...

Perosonally, I like Olympus more than Nikon and Canon... I just love their lens... is very sharp!!!

[LifeAfterDeath]

TO: galleo

> I would really like to know y you like to use Nikon instead of Canon.
when the time I bought D100... there is the time D60 just came out... and I readed most of the Japanese Magazine... and they all said that... D100 is better in landscrape... and D60 is better in portrail... however @ that moment I perfer landscrape is more important 2 me... maybe becux I'm a Canadian... I just love the landscrape in Canada... so that is the first reason...

second reason is... one of my friend is a Pro.... he is a Canon user and he was using 1N @ that time(now he is using 1VHs)... he told me that Canon D-SLR has some problem... the focusing system has problem... which 6x4.5 talked b4 "你睇前排10D失焦事件,好明顯係未做好就急於推出市場" however when I called up my friend (he is worked inside Canon) and he is also telling me the same issue... focusing has problem... the problem is... when u try 2 focusing on 2 very close object... oen in front... one at the back... and very close... sometime the D-SLR can't focus on the right one... this can only fix by using L series lens... that's what he said... (I think 300D doesn't has that problem... =^_^=) This issue is around since D30,D60 and 10D(first shippment)... and this is my second reason 2 step back from Canon...

The third reason is about the lens... one of my friend is work in Camera shop in Mongkok... and he told me that some of the 3rd party lens can't fit on D60(@ that time) u must use EF lens, and 4 better focusing... must use L series lens... I think this is also fix it after 10D... =^_^=

The forth reason is the lens... Canon lens could only last up to four to five yrs... since they use USM... however Nikon lens could easy last up to six to seven yrs... I also own a lens that's almost 11 yrs old... and still fuction very well... (I'm try 2 say that the USM is nice and fast... but just won't last long enough...)

So I think that's all the reason that I choose Nikon over Canon...

[6x4.5]

說來非常慚愧\n
"希臘"呢張相並唔係我影(我post相時已經聲明左),更唔係我既朋友,說是朋友便高攀了. 呢張係攝影大師Henri Cartier-Bresson (1894-1986)既作品.

Bresson以"The Decisive Moment "(決定性瞬間) 的美學而著名,善於捕捉人的動作/表情融入風景微妙的一瞬間, 構圖簡單直接,有的著重人物,光線,線條平衡,(如他最著名的作品 "Srinagar, Kashmir", 1948), 亦善於運用強烈對比而表達的荒謬感 (如"Coronation of King George VI, Trafalgar Square", 1938),促成為「紀實」為重點的所謂「報導攝影」的興起.

Washington Post有他的作品結集:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/museums/photogallery/bresson/

夏天時去了一趟希臘,"白屋．小島"正是小弟所拍,那時正迷上黑白照,帶左四筒黑白非林,可惜小弟技術一般,四筒入面無一張見得人,剛見到呢幅相,便post 上黎俾大家優賞下, 同時睇下平時口響響,講講講的大C有幾多人會識.

結果?呵..

[LifeAfterDeath]

竹内敏信 for landscrape...
馬場信幸 for portrail... (right now I'm reading his book on how to use flash on portrail... =^_^=)

I don't know how many of u have saw the photo from 竹内敏信... if you do have a chance, just buy "CAPA"... and u will see his photo...

[Hercules]

The 4/3 CCD is not as small as you think, don't worry about the image quality compare with APS size sensor in 10D, 300D, D100, forget about it!


The thread about four thirds system, for your reference