[家威]

差幾皮.好采無買.之前買左300d都驚會後悔再轉828.不過e家睇到d sample .真係好差.canon 300d iso 400 同sony 828 iso 100 差不多.d相重差過我支Tamron 28mm-300mm ultra zoom XR.買828=浪費金錢

[twbchang]

我都覺得很奇怪，為什麼 Sony F828 一直都沒有 sample 睇，只得 2張，
原來它的質素這麼差，那些 1:1 相像 ISO800 菲林晒 8R 的效果，我等
它的 samples 相等了5個月，現在不用等了，好在沒有衝動在網上預計，
否則一定嘔血。
現在即刻走去買部 Nikon D100 + Tamron 28~300mm XR。

[twbchang]

我都覺得很奇怪，為什麼 Sony F828 一直都沒有 sample 睇，只得 2張，
原來它的質素這麼差，那些 1:1 相像 ISO800 菲林晒 8R 的效果，我等
它的 samples 相等了5個月，現在不用等了，好在沒有衝動在網上預訂，
否則一定嘔血。
現在即刻走去買部 Nikon D100 + Tamron 28~300mm XR。

[LifeAfterDeath]

I knew people that work in Sony... and he said that... all the sample is from the beta 828... he said that the 828 is not tuned at all...

Also he told me last week... when he was trying out the final product... the camera is just great...

I think that I may want to buy 828 as well... =^_^=

Of couse this is no match for D-SLR... but is fun 2 have a DC beside D-SLR... since I always want to buy a extra DC 2 replace my Olympus C-700...

[LifeAfterDeath]

I knew people that work in Sony... and he said that... all the samples is from the beta 828... he said that the 828 is not tuned at all...

Also he told me last week... when he was trying out the final product... the camera is just great...

I think that I may want to buy 828 as well... =^_^=

Of couse this is no match for D-SLR... but is fun 2 have a DC beside D-SLR... since I always want to buy a extra DC 2 replace my Olympus C-700...

[twbchang]

Nikon D100 + (Tamron 28~300mm / Tokina 24-200mm) = < $16,000.
weight = 700 + 420 = 1120 g = 2.4 lb
Sony F828 + Changer & batt. = $9,xxx
weight = 920 g = 2 lb

計重量，Nikon 只重小小，計 size，大家差不多，但 DSLR 機身會高小小，計質素，DSLR 就高出很多，當然價錢也高很多。

如果價錢不是主要因素，應該買 DSLR 較為實際。

[老叟]

咁樣比法,似乎唔係幾公平喎!!

[ninekit]

um ... i think D100 + 28-300mm isn't an apple, apple comparsion, it leak the wide capability.
i will choose 300D + 18-55mm + 85mm F/1.8 to compare with 828. though still a little more expensive, but for sure more verstile and much higher quality.
in my opinion 828 lost the edge on size and weight.

[kpcheung]

http://www.a-digital-eye.com/F828Disney1.html

[alf_wong]

>> sony 828 對canon 300d 原全無威脅

其實又唔好用威脅黎形容既, F828本身跟300D 或其他DSLR係有完全唔同既目標買家. F828可以話係一件過既產品, 就如買Laptop一樣, 彈性好低但方便帶出帶入. DSLR好似Desktop咁, 彈性好大, 但要有者咁上下Range如28-200mm, 兩支鏡走唔甩. 但DSLR既彈性將令到佢既價錢推到好高.

我知欏F828跟300D黎比係好自然既事, 主要兩部機既"入門"價錢係相若, 形成有一個威脅對方既假象. 老實講, 用過DSLR產品既, 當然會為F828較低既相片質數表現而失望, 但F828事實上根本唔係DSLR嘛, 只睇相片質數就下定論, 眼光比較窄一點.

傳統相機, 都唔會搵傻瓜機跟SLR比吧. Contax T2, T3 幾靚呀..... 但跟EOS 1V 或 F5 唔同嘛.

F828既Spec令好多人有好多幻想(包括我自己), 但基於設計上既分別, 我認為F828 類形相機 o係單以相片質數(尤以放大相)方面將永遠唔會比得上DSLR類形. 但調轉黎睇, F828, 8千幾蚊, 28-200mm F2.8, 8M pixel, 質數一樣有保證, 一機走天下, 又唔會令你心思思去加多哩樣果樣, 點講都有賺嘛.

睇自己需要啦, 諗清楚先買就最真.

[新仔一件]

其實兩者既 target 都好唔同, 如果真係只求靚相, DSLR 會有一定的表現, 但唔代表絕對的好.
F828 係 all-in-one 既機, 好簡單一句, 用 300D 可以影短片嗎?
你可能話我多餘, 買部相機走去講影 video, 但係 F828 確係一部可以影 video 既相機, 呢樣確係事實. 你用唔著, 但係都有 d 用家會有需要的. 有時一家大細出外玩, 可以影 video 真係有佢既價值的.

而且, 如果話價錢差唔多, 又唔可以咁講.
買部 300D, 如果要有番 28-200mm, 上面都有人講左, 可能要買兩支鏡, 即係要 cover 35mm 既 17.5 - 125. 就算唔計光圈, 唔買 L 鏡, 都要比錢.

我之所以買 F828, 係諗住同家人出外時, 方便用的. 如果用 DSLR, 要轉鏡頭的時候, 都幾煩. 28-200 算係一個幾好既 range, 基本上一般情況都好夠用.

至於相片質數, 我見有人講過大約意思既野, 好似幾合理, 唔知大家合唔合聽:
你影既相會點用? 係咪成日用 1:1 放在個 screen 看....如果係, 咁 F828 既問題真係好影響你, 唔好買了.
但係, 如果你只係印番 3R, 4R, 5R, 8R 之類, 又話者甚至只係放在網頁上看, 你估大家所講既 乜野 質數問題, 仲係咪睇得出? dpreview 都有人講, 印到 11吋都仲 ok, 當然, 如果你要放大大張既 poster, 可能真係會睇得出.

有時, 買野都要睇番自己點用, F828 始終係多功能既機, 而且, 在一般情況下唔會輸比一般既 DSLR, 佢自然有佢既生存空間.

其實係咪有必要因為一d 可能日常唔會見既野 (1:1 咁去睇張 8MP 既相), 就去否定架機呢? 就好似我之前講, 300D 甚至 1Ds 都唔可以影 video, 係咪代表佢地唔好?

所以, 如果話威脅 300D, 可能係針對一 d 用開傻瓜機想轉玩 pro 一點既人, 而唔係一 d 專業既拍友. 個人覺得, 如果係咁, F828 會方便一點. 至於質數既問題, 300D 都唔係完全無敵, 而且好似我所講, 睇番實際需要, 邊架好就真係見仁見智了.

[checksum]

若然你對質素要求甘高，28~300mm未遲早要換，而且d100點講都系過時產品

[zeusho]

相當欣常新仔一件的意見，本人有意今晚另開Topic，大家又可以了解了解F828。當年買F707都有咁o既情況，好多人都話唔得，但我都用得相當開心。

[oasisforever]

咁白痴o既topic都有人開,真係要贈你一句

[zengzhang]

買SONY 828的人一定不是普通的攝影愛好者，所以像質是很在乎的，它的確沒法跟300D相比，差得太遠了，影出來的相讓人後悔不已，現在已經有不少用家感覺到828是雞肋了。唉