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Santa Cruz
註冊: 2004-07-24
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各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 24 日 |
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問題:
1.canon a 80的用家, 我想問0下部機d相質素得唔得呢, 尤其係夜景
2.sony v1 0既水貨信唔信得過gar?(即係有無保養and 跟機配件等)
3.sony w1 多唔多function gar?
4.canon a75 only 320 萬像素會唔會影d相好唔清gar?
識0既請盡答, 無言感激!!!!!!!
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晉華帝
註冊: 2004-02-09
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 24 日 |
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我答第4題:
問4.canon a75 only 320 萬像素會唔會影d相好唔清gar?
答: 像素只是相片的SIZE, 不影響畫質, CCD的大小與質素才影響!
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Santa Cruz
註冊: 2004-07-24
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 25 日 |
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thx 晉華帝
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swlo
註冊: 2004-07-12
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 25 日 |
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1) Although I do not have a80, it is generally agreed by the users that the photo quality is good. 1/1.8 inch CCD for 4MP - quite a large CCD for such pixels! Regarding the night shot, it is hard to advise whether its quality is good because the majority (including all of the models listed out by you) of consumer dc cannot manage to minimize the noise when you are using ISO 200 or above. So if you use ISO 50 of a80 together with a long exposure time and certainly with a tripod to take night shot, the photo will be good (personal opinion)
2) My personal advise is that if you decided to buy "water" goods, you better to go to ONLY those shops with good record such as DCC/ND in Mong Kok 先達. If I were you, I will spend another hundreds to buy "Hong" goods - in case of any problems especially in the LCD and CCD, you can change it (within say 7days). Actually the "hong" V-1 is very cheap, it only cost you less than $3,400 which is just one or two hundred more than "water".
P.S. V-1 has infra-red, therefore more speedy to focus in the dark. If you want to take night shot, this one is the best amongst all four.
3) Not much function for W1, but manual mode is present
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Santa Cruz
註冊: 2004-07-24
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 25 日 |
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thx swlo so much
but i have gone to mong kok today
i cant find 行貨v1 less than 3400 ar
最平都係3690 ar
如果平過3400我真係即買gar
and also DCC/ND stand for what shop
我好唔熟dc 野gar =)
請再多多指教
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swlo
註冊: 2004-07-12
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 25 日 |
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I think you have gone to 中原, Citicall, Broadway & Fortress. Such shops of course sell dc in accordance with the listed price. Bearing in mind that such price has already included gifts (such as menory sticks, case, etc). If you want to buy the camera set (excluding all gifts) only, you have to go to say 星際 (2, 3/F) and 先達 (1/F), remember to ask them if it is possible to buy the dc only (excluding gifts and adjusting the price). Such dc shops tend to select some models as discounted products to attract customers.
Also try 永成, 萬成, 永明, 一圓 but NEVER try 龍都,永家 (black shops) (and some others - I can't remember the name)
As far as I know, the supply price from dealer (wholesale) currently for V-1 is less than $3,200 - $3,300. Therefore, they should willing to sell it at HK$3,400 to make a gross profit of more than $100 (such profit is not bad in Mongkok district) !
1) DCC = DC Career 2) ND = N- Digital. Both shop sells "hong" and "water" goods. Actually, I believe they are owned by the same guy.
The listed prices are meaningless and you should compare the price apple to apple.
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Santa Cruz
註冊: 2004-07-24
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 25 日 |
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真係唔thx你都唔得, 次次都打咁大段野黎教我野
but我想問問
咁睇黎就算買部平0既行貨v1 都係因為無野跟機jar wor
but有d 野如memory stick 係唔買唔得gar wor
咁我買埋佢未同0係老百and 豐澤買差唔多lor?
sorry 真係唔識, 如有錯, 請指點
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swlo
註冊: 2004-07-12
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 25 日 |
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Absolutely correct. Therefore, you should compare the prices by deducting the value of gifts.
Please also note that there is no gift for low price "water" good!
A 32 MB CF card is included in the VI camera set. A 32 MB CF card can only take around 12 - 15 no. of "5MP fine" photos (may be more, it all depends on the complexity of the scene). This is certainly insufficient! As such, it is a must to buy a 128MB (around $300 - $380, can't remember the exact price) or even a 256 MB CF card!
Of course, you can take much more photos using the same card if you only take 5MP standard, 3MP fine or even 3MP standard photos.
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swlo
註冊: 2004-07-12
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 25 日 |
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One extra thing:
From 28 June 2004 to 31 August 2004 is Sony's JETSO days. Therefore, if you buy "hong" V1 during this period, you can get a free carrying case (I think it worthes more than $100) WHILE STOCK LAST. BUT no such gift for "water" V1. This case is given by Sony, not the dc shop. Therefore, remember to ask the sales whether this is still any stock!
One more point - You can go to Sony Shop to try all models FREE OF CHARGE. The sales are happy to answer you queries. The address is as follows:-
9/F Wai Fung Plaza, 664 Nathan Road, Mongkok
(the building with E-Spirit and a super Fortress at basement)
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Santa Cruz
註冊: 2004-07-24
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 26 日 |
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唉, 我諗我呢d窮等人家都係要買番a80, 75 or wait a85 gar la
我又想多function, 又想影得靚(vy important), 仲要around 3000, 真係想搵都難
anyway, thx for ur information
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swlo
註冊: 2004-07-12
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 26 日 |
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If you only got $3,000 buget, you shall have no alternative but to buy A75 only. The following is my estimated price to possess a DC with CORE accessories:-
A75 (hong)
1) Camera - $ 2,050 (no gift)
2) 256 CF card - $ 350
3) GP battery charger (30 mins) with 4 no. of batteries - $ 300
4) 4 no. of batteries (a must for standby purpose) - $ 80
5) Carrying case - $ 80
6) Tripod (assume not necessary)
Total = 1) + ... + 5) = $ 2,860 < $ 3,000
If you want to by A80, your budget has to be increased by $600,
i.e. $ 3,460
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zeusho
註冊: 2003-09-06
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 26 日 |
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本人對Sony W-1的用家評論總結:
看過我post的朋友都知我喜歡說說某某相機的缺點,今次W-1都不可以例外:
1. 機身有些人來說是厚及重了一點;
2. 電池室及記憶體室的蓋是用膠造的;
3. 普通的觀景窗沒有修正線,觀景的景像及拍攝出來的相片位置偏差極大,其實可以刪除;
4. LCD的解像度低,只得12萬3千像數;
5. 在很暗的環境下LCD很難觀看 (只在半按之時才能看清拍攝影像);
6. 沒有ACC插孔,不能使用Remote線;
7. 使用MS卡對很多人是貴了點;
8. 影像拍攝模式少,只有六個:月光模式、月光肖像模式、燭光模式、風景模式、海邊模式及模糊快拍模式;
9. Sharpness、Contrast及Saturation只有正負一級可以選擇;
10. 影像效果只得黑白及棕褐色;
11. 3:2相片拍攝模式不能顯示柱狀圖;
12. M Mode之下:Wide只能選擇F2.8或F5.6光圈,Tele只能選擇F5.2或F10 (如在中段Zooming,則F價跟著改變:在選擇F2.8下則會轉至F3.2, F3.5, F4.0, F4.5及F5.2;在選擇F5.6下, 則會相繼轉至F6.3、F7.1、F8.0、F9.0及F10.0),很有些限制,而快門則有正常選擇;
13. 附送的叉電機叉電時間很長,要大約六小時叉兩粒AA電池;
14. 在拍攝完畢後只能Review上一張相,要Review再前幾張相則要轉到Review Mode;
15. 防紅眼閃光燈要在Setting內設定,非常不便(Sony一向以來的壞習慣);
16. Macro只得6cm;
17. 沒有全景模式,不能製作16:9相片;
18. Zoom的速度慢了一點;
19. 配件貴;
20. ISO沒有800,只得100, 200及400選擇。
W-1的優點:
1. 機身金屬感很強,很有質感,手握亦見合適;
2. 2.5"特大LCD,雖然像數不高,但看得很清楚;
3. LCD在強烈陽光依然清晰無比;
4. 開機關機時間超快;
5. 相機操作界面流暢,清楚容易明白,操作速度快速;
6. 對焦速度很快,有Sony F-828的風範;
7. Save相、讀相的速度很快,在看相模式時觀看前前後後的相片沒有Delay;
8. 紅外線附助燈很有效,好過有很多其他相機的對焦燈,有效距距亦相當遠;
9. 影像質數為歷來Sony DC最高 (可能好過V-1),影像銳利、沒紫邊問題 (蔡司Vario-Tessar鏡頭及機內Real Imaging Processor應記一功);
10. 相片雜訊亦是歷來Sony DC控制得最好的一部 (跟P100一樣),拍攝夜景一流;
11. 使用AA電;
12. 電池領航能力超強;
13. 拍攝Movie質數非常高 (640 x 480 @ 30fps,使用MS Pro卡),一直是Sony強項,很多其他同級機不能與之相比;
14. 鏡頭配件齊全;
15. 閃光燈效能一流,非常準確;
16. 網上登記,有18月保用。
17. 有3:2比例相片模式
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zeusho
註冊: 2003-09-06
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Re: 各位大哥, 我有幾個about dc 0既問題呀, 幫幫手得ma? Post time: 7 月 26 日 |
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對Sony W-1有興趣嗎?請進入Sony W-1用家交流區交流一下。
http://www.dcfever.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=161758&t=161758&phorum_auth=6b70f5d71e696535d129f2f9700d726f
另外,本人曾經擁有過Sony V-1,所以對Sony V-1及W-1有何問題,請盡管發問,不過swlo朋友已經答得很詳細了呢…不過Sony V-1最大的問題的用電問題,你需要買多兩粒專用鋰電作拍攝之用。
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