[lmichael]

睇o下的討論,發覺一講到鏡頭就好多人問同有興趣,不同開個topic講o下一些心得,有些DSLR新人可能會有興趣,當然老手就更要比o下意見. 我影了十幾年相,用的都是中,下價的鏡.亦經常借人地的靚鏡來玩,有一些個人觀點.不過由於一路都係用緊Canon機,所以亦以講Canon為主.

1. 其實我發現大部份的人(看這文章的例外),其實唔係好用得盡自己枝鏡,未用盡的意思是, 你無經常用到你枝鏡的強項,其實除了L鏡外,大部份鏡,其實有部份的地方是特別出色,例如,十幾年前有枝跟機送的Canon 35-80 F4-5.6,佢的廣角端係F8以後,係有超高表現.好多人用了自己枝鏡無耐,就覺得唔好,走去買枝L鏡.其實自己枝鏡是仲可以用盡o的.
2. Canon的低價鏡真係越出越差,以前Canon同Nikon的鏡頭質素,無論低,中同高檔都係差唔多,唔個點解,呢幾年Canon的低價鏡真係越出越差,表表者是28-90 F4-4.5, 同以前35-80真係無得比. Canon真係無了平,靚,正呢枝歌仔唱,不過佢的中,高價鏡仍然係非常出色.
3. 雜牌(即是Ta,Si同To)的水平,就越出越好,特別是在低價鏡,例如Sigma的18-55 F4.5-5.6,幾舊水,比金屬接口你,而且質素真係一o的都唔差(當收細到F8 左右).
4. 好多人用好多錢買多枝鏡,但是好少人會花多一些錢去買一些配件,例如,雲台,相機繩,直角觀景器,庶光罩,好o的的相機袋.其實好多時,這些配件比鏡頭更容易令照片質素提高.

不過我自己是非常鼓勵身邊朋友買靚鏡.

[gaiuswong]

咁你而家有D咩鏡響手,有邊支你最欣賞覺得最正.

[honyeong]

Imichael!
真好la! 一兩日前得你指點買相機方面的問題，而家又有一機會向你??有關鏡頭?料。
因我想由prosumer升級至D-SLR，所以認識和懂得分辨�挑選不同的鏡頭是很重要的。
但係，我對不同鏡頭的特點認識很淺，所以好多時都不太明討論區裹見到有關鏡頭的討論�意見。
唔知你可否絡絡講下方面的意思：
- F4-5.6
- ... II USM
- ... SP AF
- … Di-II
- L 鏡
- …XR Di LD
- … Mk II
- … EF
- … EFS
- … ISL
唔知咁樣算唔算問得太多呢？
Thankyou very much

[ninekit]

thank you lmichael hing for bringing up this topic.

i am always a big fan of fixed focal length lenses, for its 4 advantages.

1. cheap
2. good quality
3. light and small
4. fast (big apertures)

yes, yes, however, in some rare occasions, zoom by foot using fixed focal length may not be feasible, and its quite a pain in the butt to change lenses in the field which could be a big problem to DSLR as it attract dusts on the sensor. so by the time i go for DSLR, i think i will also switch back into zoom.

agreed, most of the new generation lenses are not as good as the early days, especially in the build and optical quality. i am still into the old days of using those full metal barrel, fixed aperture zoom lenses. Like my old manual minolta 75-150 F/4, and my brother's AF 70-210 F/4, subjectively speaking, they are really as good as the fixed focal length of the same era. The good modern IS or VR functionality are also very good, but you really have to pay up for the PRO grade lenses to match the quality of the old lenses, which is quite a shame.

[lmichael]

首先聲明一下,我係一個在攝影方面都幾"孤寒"o下,所以o的鏡都比較實用,即係平.

Vivitar Series 1 70-210 F2.8-4
抵用,幾年前都係千幾元,遠攝端一流,估唔到咁好,近攝端,要用F3.2或以上,用來影人都幾OK.不過大家要忍o下佢對焦慢同麻煩.

Sigma 18-55 F4.5-5.6
用係300d都幾好, 五舊水的二手貨, 在F8以下幾用,係反差差少少,不過用PS較較就得.真係好抵用,比埋金屬接口你.

Sigma 28-70 F2.8
二手千幾元, 其實係好鏡,不過現在好少用,因為太大枝.都好想放番出去.

Canon 85 F1.8
十幾年前,用三千三百元買入來,影人一流,不過我建議收細到F2.8來用,現在好似唔駛3千元,本來想過賣出去,不過想到佢陪了我咁耐,我老婆追番來都係靠佢,所以仲係度.

Canon 35-80 F4-5.6
十幾年前跟機送,實在係平,靓,正,在F8,廣角端好過好多中檔鏡,唔知點解,Canon真係出唔番咁o既鏡.

計計埋埋,再加埋部300d,其實現在一部20D都貴過晒,如果個個都係咁,實無公司肯投資新產品.

另外,外Honey兄,你的問題,我答到就答.

- F4-5.6 有一些zoom鏡,在廣角端的光圈會大一些, f4,在長焦會小一些, f5.6
- ... II USM Version 2, Ultrasonic Motor, Canon先有.
- ... SP AF SP唔記得, AF係自動對焦
- … Di-II Di係for digital, 有新技術減少sensor平面的反光.ii好似係Verson 2
- L 鏡 Luxury , 即係Canon的專業鏡,又名紅圈鏡,因為在前端有一圈紅圈.用了超低色螢石.....,亦即係貴咁解,不過一分錢一分貨.
- …XR Di LD XR唔得　Di 就是Digital, LD,就是低色散
- … Mk II 好似係Verson 2
- … EF Canon的AF鏡都係用EF開頭，例如　EF24-70 F2.8L
- … EFS Canon新的AF鏡，只可以用在部份DSLR，例如300D或以後的DSLR，30D同60D唔知，個尾長少少．有人話可以有效防止入塵．
- … ISL

[lmichael]

ninekit: 其實定焦的質素一般都比zoom好好多,"是但"攞枝俄頭定焦都正,好多以前的名牌鏡廠,最終被淘汰都因為zoom加AF做得唔好,其實現在用數碼,我反而覺得用定焦方便很多,你可以set 大個resolution,咁影完返去才裁剪,咁可能3枝定焦就夠用,廣角,中焦,長焦+增距.

[CCB]

I think SP is the series of Tamron. Still remember their adaptor II system in MF SLR days, one len fit all SLR. Those were the golden age of Tamron.

[catokwok]

lmichael兄

小弟是新丁一名(同時亦十分"貧"), 但十分同意你所說的,
可能小弟見識少, 對分辦兩支鏡之好壞知之不詳, 除非兩支鏡以同焦同光圈影同一物,否則單以一張成品來說(不是太差),難以說誰較好
e.g. sigma 28-200 2.8 同nikon 20-200 2.8 vr(不計sigma偏黃)兩張都好"利"ar
請lmichael兄指點, 感激!

小弟現在用
TAMRON 28-75 2.8
同
SIGMA 70-200 2.8
用得好開心, 覺得兩支成品好靚

[gaiuswong]

我就除左一支雜鏡~愛展能 AF28~70 f2.3-2.8外,其他都係原廠鏡,支愛展能有4片瑩石光學質素就一流,不過套對焦mechanism就九流,仲衰過Canon第一代AFD.

[Gowest]

呢個topic又重燃起我拎返部手動機出黎玩既欲望!!!
同意依家d平鏡真係唔係好掂,我果枝Minolta MD 35-70mm F3.5 同埋Tamron枝90mm f2.8 marco 真係sharp到呀.......,好,今晚就買番筒靚菲林影下先。

[catokwok]

SP 在TAMRON
指SUPER PERFORMENT

好似無ISL
IS 在CANON
指防震

XR"好似"在TAMRON
指透光的新技術,可縮小成枝鏡SIZE

[ivan_ccf]

好囉, 好囉... 有依個topic... 可以令我對鏡頭有更好了解. ^^

[lmichael]

其實大家如果想對鏡頭的質素有更多的資料,可以去色影無忌看看,個評語真係好中肯.

http://www.cameraunion.net/product/index.php

[cwlee]

Canon 35-80 F4-5.6
十幾年前跟機送,實在係平,靓,正,在F8,廣角端好過好多中檔鏡,唔知點解,Canon真係出唔番咁o既鏡.
呢支鏡我十年前单獨買價錢$1320 我四支canon鏡就剩呢一支未買
賣咗嘅包括28-105 II 55-200 100-300 35-80呢支而家二手最多值$300所以暫時保留 我現在都喜用sigma镜同閃灯平得嚟都唔錯

[intel875]

我仲以為只有canon 先有瑩石鏡片, 原來愛展能都有