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Feheart




註冊: 2002-12-09

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題目minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

呢度無人講gei?~
http://www.dchome.net/viewtopic.php?t=137000
睇左好多新用家gei測試相
防震勁,畫質好,顏色好...真係fight 低C,N 同級機wo....
但會唔會因為係minolta ,始終賣唔起呢?~(D香港
人大多死忠C/N)
再post:
http://www.jack.com.hk/PICT0022.JPG
http://www.dchome.net/viewtopic.php?t=136586&sid=4d949f430614a9df4af414f6b0541853
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insane




註冊: 2002-11-30

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

C and N have their appeal, and their strengths. A large array of lens to choose is one strong reason. But then again, I am no pro, and Minotla offers all the lens I ever need shooting non-pro, and my selection is well supplemented by large selection of value-for-money Tamron, Sigma, Tokina etc.

And I would not choose my camera just because it is popular. This is the least of my concern. I adore those who yield good products (photos) from lesser equipment.

I know what I want from my first DSLR. My choice of DSLR must meet my own needs. From all the reviewers and users' feedback so far, I am pretty confident the KMD7D meets my needs. I dare to say there is no DSLR out there at this moment taht can better equip me for avialble light and street photography.

The KM D7D appeals to me mainly for the following reasons:

- good layout. Man-machine interface is priority number one for me(buttons and dials instead of menu layers upon menu layers)
- bright EVF
- good color retention
- good noise performance (usable high ISO shots is one area digicam fails)
- AS - this allows all my lens to become IS/VR without the added expense for each lens (all those inexpensive Tokina, Sigma, Tamron can become IS/VR also)
- AS on prime lens and macro lens (as far as I know, there are simply no IS/VR prime and macro lens available for sale, period)
- quick startup (whether nanosecond or milsecond quicker are just advantage on paper. All I need is the camera must start up and be ready by the time I raise it to eye to shoot. Looks like D7D meets my need here).
- sturdy body

Granted, large MP and faster shoot rate are nice features. But to me, I don't routinely print A3 and up, and don't do machine gun shooting for long (can't afford the CFand storage. can't tolerate slow processing time on my dated PC). So the strengths of the 20D here is not all that important to me (but got to admit the D20 is close second choice).

Oh. By the way, it is OK the KMD7D is not a popular cameras in Hong Kong. Otherwise, I will have to pay more to get it, and for Minolta mount lens, 2nd hand lens etc.

My two cents worth.
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ninekit




註冊: 2002-10-08

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

any brothers know hows the shutter lag of the D7D? i think its a must for street photography.
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zeusho




註冊: 2003-09-06

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

To ninekit朋友:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/minolta-7d.shtml

Responsiveness

I found that the Maxxum 7D was not as responsive as I would have liked. I have no hard figures to back this up, but the camera always seemed to be about 1/8th of a second behind what I wanted it to be doing. Usually with a new camera I find after a few hundred frames that I become familiar with the amount of "lag" between when my brain tells my finger to press the shutter release, and when it actually happens. I never could quite get the measure of the Maxxum 7D. It could be that because I was using the camera with Anti-Shake turned on almost all the time when shooting hand-held it was contributing some slight additional delay. I'll leave it to one of the technically more rigorous reviewers to try and measure if this is the case, but subjectively it seemed that way to me.

P. S.

This is a preliminary hands-on review of the brand-new Maxxum 7D. It was written in mid-October and was based on a week of field testing a pre-production camera. I was told by Konica Minolta that while the body itself was in final form, the firmware was not. For this reason minor glitches have been either overlooked or reduced in emphasis.
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harry2785




註冊: 2003-11-26

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

邊度有m記d lens資料?

thx 我考慮緊買300d定係d7d
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zeusho




註冊: 2003-09-06

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

http://kmpi.konicaminolta.us/eprise/main/kmpi/Content/cam/cam_Attachments/Maxxum_Lenses
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harry2785




註冊: 2003-11-26

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

係canon is就姐係手振 usm姐係聲波馬達 咁M記鏡頭d字又有咩意思?
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insane




註冊: 2002-11-30

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

Shutter lag is another important factor in my book. It is true that the pre-production unit was not that impressive according to luminous landscape review. That said, based on feedback from dpreview users on actual production units, there is little shutter lag to speak of from the production D7D. (i.e. I have yet to come across any user complaint from actual users/owners of production D7D on shutter lag).

There is however report of poor noise performance in ISO1600 and 3200. And there is report of a recall of 2000 unit from the first batch to France. It appears the firmware issue from some D7D is not still half baked. Interest to hear from users of D7D here in Hong Kong. Hope the shipment to here are all with the better version of firmware.

There is also isolated case of complaints about back focusing, and a few complaints about slow to flash out RAW files to CF. But they appear to be isolated cases at the moment.

I will hold off my purchase a bit to let the dust settle, and the price to ease off a bit before I commit.
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takuro




註冊: 2002-08-14

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 23 日

M記鏡頭有個D字即係support ADI閃燈模式。

ADI係M記既一種閃光技術,閃光燈出力會將被攝主體既距離列入計算,因此就算o係光線比較複雜既環境下,閃光燈出力都可以好準確。
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kcpun




註冊: 2004-05-05

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 24 日

唔好俾d "shutter lag"既評語嚇到你,7D既shutter反應絕對夠快,起碼我唔覺有lag既問題出現。
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Feheart




註冊: 2002-12-09

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 24 日

harry2785
坦白講300d 同d7d無得比......
d7d win 晒...(我覺得連canon20D 都唔係好夠鬥)
但係價錢300d 又win 晒wo~~~
所以無得咁比較gei~唔同級別~
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Winkellun




註冊: 2002-05-13

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 24 日

如果話 DSLR 嘅 ISO1600 同3200 嘅 noise 多到係一個缺陷,咁就未免係有啲吹毛求疵了!試想想就算係一般ISO 400 嘅菲林相片,其雜訊其實都已經幾多下,但 DLSR 嘅 ISO400 相片比較菲林相其實都滑得幾假下,以現時市場上嘅 DSLR 嘅畫質嚟睇,雜訊控製每部做得非常好了!如果上到 ISO1600 甚至更高的話,希望有好低雜訊係不切實際嘅要求,要知道感光度越高,感光體接收到嘅光線資料就越多,同時間雜訊必定會增多,呢個係不變嘅定律!可能依家有些 DC 玩家真係被種壞咗,仲係去到有啲失控嘅地步呢!
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insane




註冊: 2002-11-30

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題目Re: minolta D7D真係好正~     Post time: 11 月 24 日

Thanks Winkellun,

There are lots of users' report from international sites saying the noise control on D&D is comparable to that of 20D. But the fact of the matter is there are a handful saying D7D pales against the D20 when it gets to ISO1600 and 3200. I like to think this is a matter of firmware update for these less than stellar D7Ds. Would love to hear you and other Hong Kong users of D7D in this aspect. One of the major areas that DSLR excels over digcam is ISO performance (shutter speed and DOF control are the others), I am anxious to know whether Hong Kong receives a good batch of D7Ds for its initial sale.

Also many thanks to kcpun's first hand feedback on shutter lag. Also wonder how do you and others find the shutter lag issue? Slow and sluggish? or speedy?

Lookiong forward to you and others first hand feedback on these important areas.
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