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Stanbiscuit




註冊: 2002-11-12

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題目New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

http://www.canon-sales.co.jp/camera/eosd/20da/index.html
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nlsho




註冊: 2004-08-03

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

嘩!天文人排隊入貨。
實時對焦 + 特闊感『光』範圍 = !!!

咁,300D又夠年半,到底會變成點呢?
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dnamc2




註冊: 2004-03-18

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

高 ISO 超低 noise 之實現喎....有料到!~
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MinoRaye




註冊: 2005-01-30

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

但這是「受注生產」產品...
即是要訂造的... 價值不菲之餘, 亦不會是流通產品
依官網所說, 一般攝影底下色調似乎會怪怪的
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gaiuswong




註冊: 2004-03-18

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

Sorry,小弟唔多識日文,可否講解一下究竟有乜唔同......
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nlsho




註冊: 2004-08-03

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0502/05021405canoneos20da.asp
『一般攝影底下色調似乎會怪怪的』,應該是受去掉了IR filter 所至。
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dnamc2




註冊: 2004-03-18

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

網站強調部機影夜景超低 noise

但是價值不菲?...oh my god!!
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gaiuswong




註冊: 2004-03-18

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

話明「受注生產」產品,價值不菲都唔奇既.
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dnamc2




註冊: 2004-03-18

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

睇黎吾係低 noise....睇錯左
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Jackyhi




註冊: 2004-10-10

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

1200 mm 都係 受注生產 ,60 万............
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ming009




註冊: 2003-01-05

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 14 日

This is the translated information

EOS 20Da principal efficiency



Section eye The inside permitting/inserting
[ Type ]
Type Strobe built-in and digital one-eyed reflex AF AE camera
Record medium CF card (type I and II conformity)
* CF card use yes above micro driving and 2GB
Image pickup picture size 22.5テ・5.0mm
Use lens The CANON EF lens group (the EF-S lens is included)
(As for effective photographing angle of view, suitable to approximately 1.6 times that declared focal length)
Lens mount The CANON EF mount
[ Image pickup element ]
Type High sensitivity & high resolution large-sized veneer CMOS sensor
The number of pixels Camera section effective pixel: Approximately 820 ten thousand pixels
Entire pixel: Approximately 850 ten thousand pixels
Aspect ratio 3: 2
Color filter system RGB primary color filter
Low-pass filter Stationary type, arrangement to the image pickup element front
[ Record type ]
Record format type DCF 2.0: JPEG, and RAW
Record picture type JPEG and RAW (12bit)
RAW + JPEG simultaneous record Possibility
File size

(1) Large/Fine : Approximately 3.6MB (3504テ・336 pixel)
(2) Large/Normal : Approximately 1.8MB (3504テ・336 pixel)
(3) Middle/Fine : Approximately 2.2MB (2544テ・696 pixel)
(4) Middle/Normal : Approximately 1.1MB (2544テ・696 pixel)
(5) Small/Fine : Approximately 1.2MB (1728テ・152 pixel)
(6) Small/Normal : Approximately 0.6MB (1728テ・152 pixel)
(7) RAW : Approximately 8.7MB (3504テ・336 pixel)
* File size differs subject condition, depending upon ISO sensitivity and development parameter etc.
File number Consecutive numbering and automatic reset
Color space SRGB and Adobe RGB
Development parameter Parameter 1 and 2, set 1 - 3 (the development parameter which is set optionally 3 case register possibilities), the monochrome
Interface USB2.0 Hi-speed (standard/PTP selective possibility)
Video output (NTSC/PAL selective possibility)
[ White balance ]
Type Automatic, solar light, shade, cloudiness and incandescent light and white fluorescent light, Strobe, manual and color temperature appointment
Automatic white balance The automatic white balance which uses the image pickup element
Color temperature correction White balance revision: 1 step to 9 step
繝帙Ρ繧、繝医ヰ繝ゥ繝ウ繧ケ繝悶Λ繧ア繝・ぅ繝ウ繧ー: 1 step to 3 steps
* Blue/invar direction, in magenta/green direction revision possibility
Color temperature information communication Correspondence
[ Finder ]
System Pentaprism use and eye level system
Range of vision ratio Top and bottom/left and right 95%
Magnification ratio 0.9 times (50mm lens XXINF - 1dpt)
Eye point 20mm
Diopter adjustment range -3.0 - + 1.0dpt
Focusing screen Stationary type, precision mat
Mirror Quick return type extensive half mirror
(Transmission: Reflection =40: 60, mirror being cut off: There is no to 600mm F4)
Finder information AF information (AF frame, combination 辟ヲ mark), information of exposure (shutter speed, contraction numerical value, AE lock, exposure level indication and part photometry range, exposure warning), Strobe information (completion, red eye relief lamp illumination and high speed synchronizer of charge, FE lock and modulated light revision), white balance revision and serial radiography possible quantity, CF card information
Depth of field verification It depends on the squeezing button
[ Automatic focusing ]
System The TTL-CT-SIR system by the CMOS sensor
(TTL secondary image formation phase difference detection system)
Range point 9 points
Range brightness range EV - 0.5 - 18 (normal temperature ISO100 suitable)
Focusing mode One shot AF and AI servo AF, AI focusing AF, manual operation (MF)
AF frame selection Automatic operation selection and option
AF frame selection indication It depends on the superimposition inside the finder and display panel
AF auxiliary light Built-in Strobe intermittent luminous system
Operating distance: Central part approximately 4m/periphery approximately 3.5m
[ Control of exposure ]
Photometry system 35 divided TTL open photometer
Appraisal photometry (in all AF frames correspondence)
Part photometry (approximately 9% of central part finders)
Central part importance average photometry
Photometry range EV1 - 20 (normal temperature 50mm F1.4 use ISO100 suitable)
Exposure control method Program AE (fully automatic, portrait, scenery, close-up, sport and night scene portrait, Strobo radiation prohibition and program), shutter priority AE, contraction priority AE, automatic depth priority AE, manual exposure and E-TTL II automatic modulated light
ISO sensitivity Simple photographing zone: Automatic setting (ISO100 - 400 suitable)
Applied photographing zone: ISO100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, and ISO3200 suitable sensitivity expansion is possible
Exposure revision Manual operation: 1/3 and 1/2 step step ツア 2 steps (AEB combined use possibility)
AEB: 1/3 and 1/2 step step ツア 2 steps
AE lock Automatic operation: One shot at the time of AF appraisal photometry, combination 辟ヲ with simultaneously AE lock
Manual operation: It is due to the AE lock button pushing, (with all photometry systems possibility)
[ Shutter ]
Type Electronic control system, focal plain shutter
Shutter speed 1/8000 - 30 seconds (1/3 and 1/2 step steps), valve X=1/250 second
Release system Software touch electromagnetic release
Self-timer Photographing 10 second later
Remote control N3 type terminal remote control correspondence
[ Built-in Strobe ]
Type Retractor bull system, automatic popup Strobe
Modulated light system E-TTL II automatic modulated light
Guide number 13 (ISO100 suitable m)
Charge time Approximately 3 seconds
Charge completion indication Strobe charge completion mark illumination inside finder
Illuminating angle It corresponds to lens declared focal length 17mm suitable angle of view
FE lock Possibility
Strobe modulated light revision 1/3 and 1/2 step step ツア2 steps
[ External Strobe ]
EOS private Strobe At the time of EX series speed light/write use, E-TTL II automatic modulated light
Synchronizer terminal It is,
Picture size corresponding zoom Correspondence
[ Something related to drive ]
Drive mode 1 photographing and serial radiography, self-timer (10 seconds)
Serial radiography speed The highest approximately 5 scenes/second
Serial radiography possible quantity JPEG (Large/Fine): Approximately 23 *, RAW: Approximately 6
* At the time of the CANON genuine 512MB CF card use
It differs subject condition, ISO sensitivity, depending upon development parameter and the CF card etc.
[ Liquid crystal monitor ]
Type TFT color liquid crystal monitor
Picture size 1.8 Type
The number of pixels Approximately 11.8 ten thousand pixels
Range of vision ratio Approximately 100%
Live view function FC1: The picture central approximately 40% part the monitor extensively enlargement indication
FC2: The picture central approximately 10% part the monitor extensively enlargement indication
Brightness control In 5 stages adjustment possibility
Indicatory language 15 languages
[ Playback function ]
Picture display format 1, information of photographing, 9 indexes, enlargement zoom (approximately 1.5 time - 10 times), automatic play, and picture revolution and jump
Highlight indication At the time of photographing information display, the highlight part which does not have image information blinking indication
[ Protect of record picture/elimination ]
Protect Protect at 1 unit, cancellation
Elimination 1, or elimination (the protect picture is excluded at the unit of all the pictures inside the CF card)
[ Direct print function ]
Corresponding printer CP direct, Bubble Jet Direct, and PictBridge corresponding printer
Print corresponding picture The JPEG picture (also print of the DPOF designated picture is possible)
[ Customization function ]
Custom function 18 kind 50 items
[ Power source ]
Use electric battery Battery pack BP-511A, BP-514, BP-511, BP-512 and 1 use
* With DC coupler use, AC drive possibility
* At the time of battery grip BG-E2 installing, single type 3 electric battery enabled
Photographing possible quantity Temperature Photographing condition
There is no speed light photography 50% speed light photography
Normal temperature (+ 20 邃・ Approximately 1000 Approximately 700
Low temperature (0 邃・ Approximately 750 Approximately 550
[ ]
* At the time of battery pack BP-511A use of full charge
Battery check Automatic operation
Power saving function To be, set-up time (1/2/4/8/15/30 minutes) power source ardently with lapse
Electric battery for date/clock function CR2016 lithium electric battery, 1 use
[ Size mass ]
Size 144 (width) テ・05.5 (height) テ・71.5 (depth) mm
Mass 685g (only substance)
[ Hardware requirement ]
Active temperature 0 邃・- + 40 邃・/td>
Active humidity 85% or less
[ Main option ]
Product name Price (classified by tax)
Battery pack BP-511A/514 8,000 Yen
Battery charger CB-5L 6,500 Yen
AC adapter kit ACK-E2 9,000 Yen
Compact power adapter CA-PS400 12,900 Yen
Battery grip BG-E2 20,000 Yen
Timer remote controller TC-80N3 16,000 Yen
Angle finder C 24,000 Yen
Diopter correcting lens E 1,050 Yen
Wide strap EW-100DGR 2,000 Yen
Semi hard case EH-17L 5,000 Yen
Extension tube EF12 II 9,500 Yen
Extension tube EF25 II 14,500 Yen
Compact flash card FC-256MH Open price
Compact flash card FC-512MSH Open price
PC card adapter 3,000 Yen

* CompactFlash (the compact flash), it is the trade mark of SanDisk Corporation.
* As for DCF, (the corporation) electronic intelligence technical industrial association (JEITA) with group trade mark, it is the registered trade mark in Japan. The graphics file of the digital camera, the fact that to utilize simply between the related equipment was enacted (the corporation) is abbreviation of standard "Design of electronic intelligence technical industrial association rule for Camera File system" DCF mainly as purpose.
* The other company names and trade name are registered trade mark or trade mark of each company.

[ Commodity constitution ]
(1) EOS 20Da (camera itself)


(2) battery pack BP-511A (the wire protector it is attached)


(3) battery charger CG-580


(4) AC adapter kit ACK-E2


(5) interface cable IFC-400PCU


(6) Video cable VC-100


(7) Wide strap EW-100DGR (the eyepiece cover it is attached)


(8) EOS DIGITAL Solution Disk (CD-ROM)


(9) Digital Photo Professional Disk (CD-ROM)


(10) Adobe Photoshop Elements Disk (CD-ROM)
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MinoRaye




註冊: 2005-01-30

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 15 日

唔明白點解唔採用1系Body... 反正都要訂造, 唔會賣得平
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jk8788




註冊: 2005-02-06

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 15 日

http://www.dcfever.com/news/readnews.php?newsID=679
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wtfgary




註冊: 2003-03-07

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題目Re: New Canon EOS 20Da     Post time: 2 月 15 日

其實,不少真正影天文照片的朋友都會自己移除個Filter.
假使20Da價格太高,自己動手重好。
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