[bookworm]

D800 既3600萬象素根本就唔係好過 D3s 既1200萬象素 三倍！
係好多數情況下試過隻係好小小，低光環境更加唔使比，連拍速度都差D。
D3s 本身就係部好機，喜歡既師兄也唔使換。

[Trilithon]

樓上的師兄小心比人圍，你衰老實。

[soonerorlater]

價錢都相差一大截，D3s比D800好是應該的

[hon279973ww]

但D3s比人話唔進取窩，像素得果的屎咁多。依加伯伯啱曬的人謂口。

[canonmanman]

像素和iso雜訊表現是相對的，不進取的像素換來頂級的iso雜訊表現，取向見人見智，影高像素多或是影低光多。當影室內時，例如婚宴，人人要就iso唔可以咁高，逼住用慢快門，又要練石膏手驚手震，咁矛盾就會知我講乜。D800用長焦距時更甚，例如70-200, 部機安全快更高，唔係用腳架卦？本來打雀變左打人。

[tom678]

又冇話ISO唔高得既, 睇化D啦, 依家時代唔同, 新手心態我地唔會明架啦, 高ISO大師招搖過市, 咪下下ISO 6400, 後製抹noise囉, 保證模特個個滑過Mary公仔, 佢地話咁先至叫審美呀! 高ISO真係幾大哂架, 咩optinum光圈快門真係唔駛學, 下下千分一秒K.O., 自我感覺都咪話唔爽。

[Trilithon]

你班老屎忽咁鬼老實。咁又點樣? 有人buy咩? 兩皮幾嘢買部新玩具，比你哋淋凍水。有冇殘忍D。時代唔同了，買部機貴D，出D相正D，是主流心態。使鬼學基本理論，最緊要自我感覺良好。

[canonmanman]

咁高三倍像素，應該高三倍價錢，咁又可以威三倍，張相心態上又可以靚三倍。買家賣家都雙贏喔！

[pierokwong]

Sorry not being able to read all the previous post before I reply. I am very very time poor.

I guess fundamentally this is a wrong comparison.

D800 & D3s or even D4 are some very different purposely built camera.

I can tell you in the professional photographer circle, only those are in Landscape or Studio will change to D800 or D800E without a blink.

For most of the others shooting on the road, including weddings most of the time, we are all sticking with D3s or D4. Just because this is a true workhorse camera.

D800 is just way too slow on shooting, and too slow for the workflow.

D800 is targeting to a more general market at the same time, using a lower price entry point to offer the FX advantage. It does attract a big group group of hobbyist with deep pocket to buy into D800.

Without any doubt, if someone don't need the extra MP, D3s is a MUCH better camera in most aspect comparing to D800.

D4 is a very good camera and definitely well worth the $ difference to D3s. Maybe it doesn't to the justice on the paper. But I am using both D3s and D4 7 days a week for work, and I can see the advantage from inside out.

Cheers,
Piero

[pierokwong]

btw, to be honest, if anyone spending that big money on a camera body but not seeing the different in there, I highly recommend the person to hold off from the purchasing decision.

Improve the knowledge more before through the money into the Nikon's pocket.

If someone has a real need in D4 & D3s, they know how to appreciate the camera for working purpose, otherwise this is just a luxury item for most hobbyist.

Luxury items mean you want it, but something not necessarily needing it.

Cheers,
Piero

[dwkw333]

Hi pierokwong Hing, Tks for your sharing.

[Trilithon]

我應該明白樓主點解出此貼，800 ／D3s 本來是不同級數的機種，唔應該作比較，但是800e 的炒價竟然與D3s 二手價相若，荒謬之極。
出咗部800拎去炒一炒，轉頭再出部二手D3s，妙哉。

[canonmanman]

Ching好似有經驗咁喎？

[canonmanman]

或者咁諗，出左D800, 定價$26800/$29800, 同是影樓設計既機款D3X, 足足平了一半，D3X像素仲要低一點，是自打咀巴的做法嗎？高階機款攞上手就是有可靠既感覺，好手感，好操控，耐用，高質素就是佢貴既價值，當然仲有感覺專業既虛榮心。從D800和3系或4系機款比較，頭三樣還未夠班，質素是否決定一切？我相信專業攝影師懂得選擇。並且，D800質素是否大幅度拋離舊機，相信大家心中有數。我相信Nikon會出一部機高像素用4系機身設計取代D3X.

[tom678]

對於會否以一體式4系機身出一部D3X後繼, 我相信唔會。除非像素再大幅度拋離D800, 否則又出多部3,4千萬像意義不大。買家會否付出貴一大截既價錢買手感、操控? 可靠度更加不用說, 影樓機又唔會有紅色暴雨、零下20度等惡劣環境, 一體式機身的賣點在哪裏?

N記策略就係以廉價來打入門中幅, 出多部貴機策略出有點自相矛盾。入門影樓生意小本經營, 成本控制最重要呢點更加不利於更貴既機, D3X某程度上銷售係幾失敗既產品呢點大家都知, 高層就係轉變策略, 何以又回歸舊路?

再再者, N記出得部E版, 一定係product line最高階先會做D咁既野, 都顯示N記唔多似再出一部更高階既影樓機----至少未來一、兩年內。