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JSmith




註冊: 2006-07-18

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 16 日

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阿修波羅




註冊: 2007-04-24

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 16 日

乜....呀 「師兄」.......而家走咗嚟呢度?做乜又唔食葯呀?
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 17 日

呀你爸爸

4/3 and FF have different "depth of field", the ideal focus is just a very narrow point in terms of few mm for FF, this is an advantage of FF to have such narrow depth of field

of course u can said say it's an disadvantage because it has too narrow depth of field.

PS, I have both OM 510,500 and some ZD lens & Canon dSLR plus many lenses. This is my own experience
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khadafy




註冊: 2003-09-25

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 18 日

我想D野講....
如果講全日本最正質素的鏡頭....
的確是OM.....
而OM係世界上四大光學儀器之一(賽司,萊卡,奧林匹斯,藝康)
但 Canon 就無份....
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 18 日

khadafy
who said this? in 1960?
如果講全日本最正質素的鏡頭....
的確是OM.....<=========
any proof?
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khadafy




註冊: 2003-09-25

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 18 日

Obi-Wan先生.........

我主力都係Canon友...但我也有用OM.系列...

要證明就麻煩閣下找找了....thx!
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MN56




註冊: 2003-10-25

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 18 日

>>>>>要證明就麻煩閣下找找了....thx! >>>>

HAHA! I don't understand why you make an assumption but need us to proof it.
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天下無敵




註冊: 2004-12-18

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 18 日

無可否認.om的鏡頭的確係比c同n記銳利度大.
但同時c同n記現今的機.係cmos技術都比om好.而且處理器都比om強.
所以出raw時.反過來c同n記的照片就比om好.
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bb1032003




註冊: 2006-12-18

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 18 日

How about this link, it even not comparing E-3 with 5D just E-3 with 40D only.

Jpeg comparison.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse3/page25.asp

Raw to Raw

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse3/page29.asp

What a logic that a smaller sensor is better than big one, if this logic can be truth then 4/3 > APS-C > FF > medium format ???

I don't think so, wheather an image is sharp or not depends upon a lot of factors, lens quality, focusing, sensor, anti-alias filter, camer processing or post processing any hand shake for image blur.
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 18 日

呀你爸爸

I wanna exchange my "best" OM gadgets with your "bad" Canon gadgets.

don't waste time argue, I have E500, E510, FL-50, ZD lens to exchange with u Canon
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khadafy




註冊: 2003-09-25

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 19 日

>>>>>要證明就麻煩閣下找找了....thx! >>>>

HAHA! I don't understand why you make an assumption but need us to proof it.
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MN56兄...
我淨係知道,伊利沙伯醫院個實驗室係用OM光學儀器的...
還有世界上很多其它的精密實驗室都係用~ZEISS,萊卡,羅敦司得,奧林匹克的,
以賽斯為最多....
至於D點解唔用Canon我就唔知啦......
不過如果閣下想知的話,那可以去查証一下.......Thx!
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who said this? in 1960?
如果講全日本最正質素的鏡頭....
的確是OM.....<=========
any proof?
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Obi-Wan兄
唔知閣下知否製造靚鏡片玻璃....
要用古法製造,才可得到密度最平均的上等玻璃嗎?
一般都要5年以上....才算得上是好玻璃....
最高級數的超過20年..
等於要用現代新技術製造XO拔蘭地一樣.....想那那聲造出XO酒,是暫時沒有可能的....不過....以後我就唔敢講!
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 19 日

靚鏡片玻璃=靚鏡片lens?
實驗室係用OM光學儀器=靚lens for taking photo?
古法製造=上等?
世界上很多其它的精密實驗室都係用~ZEISS,萊卡,羅敦司得,奧林匹克的,
以賽斯為最多....= they make they best camera lens?

kidding!

just a very simple question to let u guys to think, which country makes the larges no. of optical lens used in nearly every family in hk?
1. china, 2. japan, 3. usa

do u think this country is the best in making lens?
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JSmith




註冊: 2006-07-18

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 19 日

你知道點解玻璃要等咁耐時間先至叫好嗎?
Canon 有生產醫療儀器嗎?
你知道政府醫院採購醫療器材程序同限制嗎?
你知道點解唔係咁多公司會去生產精密儀器嗎?
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 19 日

JSmith, don't be kidding

"你知道點解玻璃要等咁耐時間先至叫好嗎?"
A good glass maker = a good lens maker?
if yes, does it mean a wheat farmer is necessarily a good wine maker?

"Canon 有生產醫療儀器嗎?"
why is it a MUST for a camera maker to 生產醫療儀器?

"你知道政府醫院採購醫療器材程序同限制嗎?"
Sorry, I don't, but how does it relate to a good camera maker?

"你知道點解唔係咁多公司會去生產精密儀器嗎? "
Sorry, I don't., but 生產精密儀器 = 生產good lens?

This is not an attack of anyone, I think many C-Hing in this forum don't open eyes much on the real world, only dreaming that Leica, Contax etc. great name on optics. BUT most lenses designed today are Computer-Aided-Design.

The only advantage that old lens better than new lenses is that many old lens has very high % of lead oxides which increases the refractive index of glass a lot. As many western countries ban the use of leaded glasses optics, so an old lens may be better than the new one in this aspect.

I am the supporter of Canon, OM, Nikon, Sony-KM, Panasonic etc.

I also like old Leica lens for its sparkles, but in terms of MTF, ALL old lens are not even comparable to recent plastic lens.

Sorry for reading such long discussion.
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william_lau




註冊: 2007-02-03

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題目Re: 終於水落石出...     Post time: 9 月 19 日

三鹿奶粉係中國太空人唯一專用奶粉,咁係咪代表佢生產的BB奶粉都係第一流水平先?

人地醫院選擇用某鏡係咪真係單單只係因為佢係地上最強最靚? 我諗中間原因並唔係咁單純囉。

不如用自己對眼去睇,覺得自己最喜歡邊部機影出來的相,唔好人話乜就乜,發覺原來其中一部機,平好多但條毛反而影得清晰過D貴機,咁咪轉用佢囉,亦可以在forum提出感想分享下,不過又唔駛出咁多相同post咁誇的。
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