[todyko]

用左5D III 都一段時間,
今日去黃金商場想買張16GB CF卡,
個哥哥仔問我用咩相機,我同佢講5D III
佢話16GB唔夠你用喎!!最少都32GB啦!!最好64GB以上啦...因為你影RAW...
我即時插咀同佢講,其實我多數影JPG
佢即時反應係覺得我用到5D III 冇理由唔影RAW啦!!
晒左部機...

而呢個問題,最近都有D朋友都係咁會覺得
我最近識左個朋友係用1DX,佢次次都係影RAW,
但佢次次都唔執相...
咁其實我覺得,既然佢都唔執相,咁影RAW黎又有咩意思呢??

講返我自己,我PS好屎,學極都唔識,我電腦白痴型,
最多都係用LIGHTROOM搞下D顏色,cut下相就算,
同埋我覺得如果次次都用RAW,咁我個hardisk有1000GB都好快搞掂
我又唔中意次次影完又燒碟既,因為又好晒時間
我布用RAW影過,執WB,執光執色的確係好D,但問題係我影完出黎最多都係搞小小

所以我真心請教各ching,
影RAW其實除左方便執相之外,仲有咩明顯係作用呢??
影RAW既人,係咪都係因為會用PS執相呢??
而我呢個CASE係大有人在??定係只有我係咁呢??
其餘既CHING個個都係影RAW??

真心求教~
先多謝各位指點一下~

[Dr.RAIN]

首先要恭喜CHING影相功力夠,其次係唔需要理人哋用RAW定JPEG,自己覺得足夠就可以,ENJOY!
BTW我都極少用PS執相,通常都用DPP+光影,利申:我影全RAW

[todyko]

Rain ching,咁如果你小用ps執相，但你又影raw,咁D file咪好大囉？係咪因為用raw轉返jpg嘅相質數會好啲呢？

[ChiuChiu1970]

相機直出jpg，同用raw檔在電腦用raw軟件直出jpg的道理一樣，不存在質數改變的問題。

[ChiuChiu1970]

“光影”？請問是不是指“光影魔术手”？

[h0001244]

我都分享下

05年用20D，當年機身未有picture style，又無live view，light optimizer 之類，加上當年由菲林機玩上數碼，唔知道以前晒相舖係做左好多功夫幫我事後執相的，包括光暗、色溫、contrast等等，所以不同晒相舖出來的效果都不同。所以初接觸數碼的我總覺得拍出來的相大不如前。
起初jpeg都唔會點執相，因用acdsee執的相好假下，因我當年唔識用。後來才知影RAW可後製，安裝了DPP，發覺WB特別調得好，比較之前jpeg只能調RGB，Kelvin Temp 又豈能用RGB來簡單兩下執到呀。之後必拍RAW回家執。
我08開始用mac機，執相特別得心應手。直到.......

[Dr.RAIN]

我用apsc同埋我用sraw所以問題不大,但我唔覺轉返JPEG相質會好啲,小弟對眼睇野差,sorry!(講咗先,如果唔係就會比人捉住呢點黎插XD)

[Dr.RAIN]

對呀超超CHING,"光影"=“光影魔术手",簡單易用喔!

[todyko]

h0001244 直到.........??
願聞其詳!!

[h0001244]

續上.........

直到上了5D3，問題就來了。
當年800萬像12bit，對08年mac機來說，簡直perfect match。用DPP是好爽的，Tune來Tune去也不會覺得部機慢。
12年上了5D3，影RAW就問題來了，回家執相成了惡夢，慢到呢！DPP好似hanghang地。所以影RAW + Jpeg，基本上要jpeg only，除非張相好唔掂，先RAW攪。
再加上近半年mac免費俾我上maverick ，個ios本身就寫得差，成部機hang到copy相都夠膽死hang機。唔好講攪RAW了。
為了唔影響我的拍攝心情，我直接只用Jpeg了，起初確有少少唔慣，但慢慢越來越享受。
由於我唔係影相搵食，每個場景都有時間的，用live view看simulation，M mode上陣，ISO都自己set，K Temp、RGBM等等，部機得番個 AF，這個對我好緊要，因我拍小朋友的。
回到家只是過相，上google drive share，分享到家人whatsapp等等
我常用Rate制，打左*先share。
去到燈光環境有古怪之地先用RAW+Jpeg，用5D3 build-in 個 editor執一報簡單野，再convert埋jpeg，快過我家中的DPP，但弊端係個RGBM無得攪。
要出張大相先嚮ps攪攪個jpeg，咁就快好多啦！

[h0001244]

講漏左，live view set 好後，就可轉番 non-live view影了

[h0001244]

題外話，我用sRAW,mRAW 同RAW轉Jpeg個速度好似無分別，可能已經慢到我無眼睇了
但sRAW,mRAW就不能在機身執相，所以我直接用RAW了

[ncychan]

I have the same experience as h0001244 Ching but starting from 40D with JPG only on year 2007 for my son.

I used RAW+ JPG until late 2008 after I had better understand of DSLR and the Pos and Cos of RAW files. Using RAW, I could tune brightness, WB, picture style and RGB (if need) for many fail JPG pictures. At that time, I will rate my pictures (must be in focus and in the right "mood" ). Usually only 3~4 out of 20 pictures (due to poor skills). If these 3~4 pictures were under- or -over brightness, wrong WB, style, color shift (RGB) or angle adjustment or "custom-made" for cropping, contrast and sharpness, I used DPP to adjust ( based on the knowledge from photo course and other experienced Chings ).

Now, I take pictures mainly for my family and kids (over 80%), landscape (10%), night scene / star track (5%) and events (5%).

When I take family and kids picture (no matter 5D3, 700D or S110 DC), I seldom adjust them - only little brightness, style & cropping. Over 90% family and kids pictures are the JPG taking by the camera and 10% RAW -> DPP -> JPG. (* Raw軟件直出jpg is meaningless to me. It is no different from taking by the camera.)

For landscape, night scene / star track and event , they are "1 take only" but hard to re-take. I will review all RAW files on DPP, rate them, choose carefully and make appropriate adjustment if need.

Due to my poor skill, over 80% of these picture will be fine tune step by step (e.g. brightness, style, contrast, saturation, sharpness, NR - Luminance / Chrominance Noise Reduction ( * it is a MUST for night scene / start track. It makes my 700D as good as 1DX as ISO100. : DD (only kidding ), HDR , Composting for start track & lens aberration correction (if data is available).)

RAW
Pos : Can easily adjust and make correction with harming the picture quality / color. Good for beginner like me.
Cos : Huge file size and hard to keep copy. Cannot share with others easily.

* I ues NAS (6TB) main + 3TB ext. HDD backup to keep all my pictures and file by year / month/ day + event names.

JPG
Pos : Smaller file size and easy to keep and share.
Cos : Due to compression, it is very hard to adjust picture without harming the picture quality / color.

* 我都極少用PS執相,通常都用DPP, 利申:我影全RAW + JPG. : P

[todyko]

所以我其實最唔明既就係,明明都唔用PS執相,但點解仲要影RAW呢??
影完RAW又要燒碟,燒完碟就肯定會將D碟放埋一邊,好少會睇返,所以我先真係真心唔明點解要用RAW??

樓上h0001244ching 話用mac機,
其實我尋日都有睇過mac機, 我想問問如果用mac機執相係咩都係ps?? 定係佢地會有第二D野比我地執相會更方便呢??
因為我唔識用PS,咁MAC機都會有LIGHTROOW嘛??

以下呢張相係我星期日用RAW影,我返到去都唔知點執好??所以都係求其整小小黑角就算,
其實如果真係執,最多都係搞下個天藍D就OK?? 如果係咁用JPEG都得嘛??
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[todyko]