[trex75hk]

小弟用開A80, 早排買了300D. 本來非常之開心, 但係影左幾次後...........
發覺色彩and清晰都唔及A80. 唔知係唔係CCD and CMOS 既關係哩？？？？？？？？？

[hygog]

of coz!

becos these type of little DC always process the photo before you can see it, the contrast and saturation of coz are heaviler then 300d, but that is not real good photo quality , coz u have not much room to alter it. the color space is compressed. for example, try open a photo in photoshop, more contrast you add, more bright the picture, and look like "good" in first sight, but infact, you are killing the color detail, can u can never return then back afterward.

but for DSLR, firstly, there are too many setting combination to influrence the color, and they preserve more grading detail for your photo, for example, if u use Adobe RGB, photo looks like they are pale and grey, but that does not mean the quality is bad, infact, they hold up much more color data inside your photo and they render the color with the wider color space, so they are not grey and pale, they are much more rich in detail.

the photo u see from little DC is high in color contrast and much more sharp, right? yeah! the on board system had already done with your photo before u can see it. u know they Sony W1, all the photo looks like sharp and bright, but for me, i say they are too "fake", u know. the camera os do too much things with the photo.

as a graphic designer, i can tell u, the photo i receive from real professional photograher are always look like pale and gray, they are not "bad", infact their photo are very rich if u scan them in room size laser drum scanner. i can do a lot more things than those sharp and hi contrast photo submited to me by the ameture photo shooters. for the photo which is bright, sharp and hi in saturation, well, u can use them, but dont think about alter them in photoshop by any method, becos the color and photo will start "breaking up".

suggestion,
if u really want the result looks good in the 1st sight, try to tune up all the setting in your 300d to maxium, and use the sRGB insted of AdobeRGB.

dont forget, serious photo really need post-production work, u didnt realize it becoz the photo printing store do it for your (and u dont know), but in DSLR age, u take this procedure back to home.

well, if u are not trying to be serious, why bother buy a DSLR?

[bb boy]

lee 個都係我未轉DSLR之原因,話說當我想DSLR時,買0左本
NIKON DSLR 聖經 ,睇0左作者對D70 0既使用談,雖然大部份
我都非常滿意及很想立刻跑去實買部D70,但係有一點令我要諗
0既係,作者提到有人覺得DSLR灰灰的,因DSLR包含太多的色彩
資訊在內,要執相,雖然我717都有執相(唔係張張相都要執)
但我驚如果用DSLR後張張相都要執咪......... 而且我比較喜歡色彩
鮮小小D相片,因為有人求真,有人求美(個人意見)所以我比較喜歡
SONY D 相機, 再0係internet睇過D70Ｄ相都好正,但大部份都執遏
唉!又想買又貪方便,所以冇買.

[striker1027]

seems u don't know how use yr 300D, what a waste of money.

[Kancy]

Is that both 300D and D70 need post-processing?

300D needs more bcoz of the CMOS or D70 is the same even it uses the CCD?

[striker1027]

All cameras need post-processing for best output.
Use of CMOS/CCD is another issue.

[walkingfuture]

用DSLR的原因其實都係為左彈性夠大。
鏡頭﹐閃燈﹐慮鏡等係配件上的彈性。而後期製作就係相片調教的彈性。

但係唔代表玩DSLR一定要執相﹐你一樣可以就甘影﹐就甘出相。效果會跟非DSLR DC差唔多。

但要記住﹐非DSLR DC同 DSLR DC同樣影到靚相﹐係掙在適唔適合你用而已。

而DSLR DC就要求user 更加深一層的攝影知識﹐例如測光﹐曝光等。就好似用開所瓜非林機轉用SLR機一樣﹐要知道攝影基本知識先可以影到較滿意的照片。

[scwong]

我都系用握300D,我想問下,是否要執相, 如果要執,有什麽可以執(最basic),sharp, level, etc.請校吓?

[wtfgary]

"我都系用握300D,我想問下,是否要執相, 如果要執,有什麽可以執(最basic),sharp, level, etc.請校吓? "

Hmmm, it depends on your camera setting and preferences. However, I think the below categories are pretty general for most of the DSLR users.

1. Exp. (for RAW)
2. Level
3. Saturation
4. Sharpen
5. Corp (if necessary)

[hygog]

我都系用

To scwong

睇你想點，都可以唔執，只係ＤＳＬＲ保留更高寬容度，可以執o既餘地就更大，當然，菲林寬容度更勁，不過興此話題不搭調，不在此詳談。

我都唔想成日執，我返工已經成日執，去玩都唔想成日煩，同埋一張曝光好o既相，唔執都唔會差乜濟。
其實機內一Ｄ setting你活用已經可以執少好多相。

我影一般生活照，就用 P1 setting，因為佢已經所有野加左一度，都夠contrast夠sharp架啦。

影人呢，我用 P2，就係唔想佢咁爆，柔Ｄ好，唔執都ok，影時小心Ｄ，over小小，唔好太sharp，都OK。

如果想真係想自已事後tune，咁用埋 P2 + adobe rgb，咁個color range就再闊Ｄ，即係可以改動o既空間更大，你知啦，影人，男好女好，都好多野係要執，特別係膚色。以前用菲林同filter控制，同依家事後執咪一樣，一個事前批量調校，依家事後個別處理，都一樣，以經唔係以保真寫實為主要目的，而係都好睇。

景building同街頭寫實snap shot，我就校爆sharpness同saturation佢，contrast就中度，太爆又好唔自然，除非你好中意過期富士菲林個種色，依Ｄ寫實街頭拍野最好唔好事後執，一執就假，除非你影黑白，咁就真係要super 執！ＲＧＢ變黑白，有千變萬化變數，Ｄ認真o既菲林人都自已沖啦！

至於影night shot building，我就prefer 用raw，night shot太多野校啦，色調特別煩，光源色溫亂七八糟，你執小小都可以好唔同，黑麻麻好易出事。特別係痴地。以前我用菲林都一take過，其實係無奈接受一落菲林無得改o既事實，而唔係張相真係無執過，只係晒相鋪師父打過光暗對比你無留意姐。好多時佢地攪返好張相你唔知，仲以為自已咁勁：自已人肉測光都咁準！ 其實唔係架。

night shot你又唔想執呀﹖咁乜都set中度，但係要set sharpness 去 maxium law。

至於你話photoshop，買時要小心law，市面上有約有三種approch o既photoshop教材，有ＩＴ佬式o既，詳例各function做乜，好多野咁，依種對新人最無用，睇晒Ｄ function又點，你要有case study，step by step比example你跟個Ｄ至有用，開頭唔會比晒Ｄfunction你睇，你一路跟一路學啦。

另一種係比graphic designer睇，例如Photoshop Wow呀，Photoshop Bible呀，依Ｄ唔會太多refer攝影o既terms同case，會多Ｄ印刷野，網點呀，cymk 呀，字款研究呀，filter呀，super大改相呀咁，都可以一看，不過唔係太多base on 攝影o既野law，而係以「為目的，乜都得」為主導。

你以攝影為主，不如睇博藝伍振榮出個Ｄ。或同攝影雜誌社出個Ｄ，佢地唔會講太多唔關你事o既印刷同字款野，都比校少filter講，主要係為enhance張相而教，我諗arm你Ｄ。

[scwong]

真系非常之多謝太家回答小弟的問題,由其系 ,用禁大偏文,來答小弟的問題,再一次講多謝!

[darrens]

聽聞Canon DSLR聖經就快出, 快D預備定D錢去買一本回家

[hygog]

is it from Canon official or some other publication?

[philip5cf]

basically, 後制對300D 呢講只算係還原！(對 Cmos 前面果三個 filter)所以應該只做一個 auto level！加 USM 就算完架啦！講開又講上個禮拜果間雜誌搞暨三架 Canon 對一架 D70 暨試驗，根本就唔 Arm 因為係用 CCD 同 CMOS 比試根本上唔該！試下響 D70 張 CCD 前放三個 filter 再比試暨結果會點呢？因此未算中肯。

[scwong]

Only apply auto level (e.g. On photoshop)?