[Chaser Tourer V]

本人新手一名 , 係邊到買會平同低呢 , 用咩鏡頭會適合呢 , 多多指教

[honyeong]

Chaser 兄，我都是新手，現在也想upgrade 到D-SLR。我念緊Nikon D70, Canon 20D 和Konica-Minolta D7D，都唔知邊部先啱。
你可否同我share你買20D的原因呀？
Thankyou very much。

[eric1234]

你個名快靓, 20D啱你, 快靓正

[Chaser Tourer V]

我有朋友用緊 D70 , 之前都係我目標之一 , 但係20D 既外型 , 我較喜歡 , D LENS 較多選擇 , 各種配件較易選購 , CANON 信譽較好 , 加上識人係 CANON 都做
D7D , 我有同事用緊 , 比我感覺太笨重 , 當開左 AS , FORUS 較慢 , 我無打算買呢部

[Chaser Tourer V]

Honyeong , 你個計劃又如何呢 ?

[Kevin Chan]

20D + EF 50mm 1.4 USM !!!

[honyeong]

Chaser，好多謝你同我share你的心得。
其實我都未有乜計劃，主要原因相信是因有太多選擇。睇過有關的資料和討論區各大哥的分析、意見，我相信主要有三選擇：
1 – Nikon D70。佢是一部唔錯嘅機，現時平了很多，同時Nikon又有好多好鏡頭。
2 – Canon 20D。比起D70佢是高一級，Canon 亦有好多好鏡頭，點睇20D都較D70好。然而，20D的價（body）比D70都高幾多，身為新手，技術又唔係乜好，買咁貴嘅機（買D20又好似應該買d靚鏡添）又唔知點咁。
3 – 最近睇到 “KM Dynax7D” 討論區d分析，D7D又好似好好，各方面都同D20有得fight（唔夠fight的方面工能如連環拍方面工能，D7D嘅我已夠用）。此外，D7D又有AS，support 嘅鏡都有好多，又唔差，咁我第時加鏡咩唔一定要買有防震工能嘅鏡，咁咩有更多選擇囉？

其實我依家都幾煩，都唔知點好。更煩的是我唔想因今日慳幾千元而令我將來好快就後悔。
你又覺得點呀？

[fycheung]

You should select your whole system rather than just single camera.

Nikon and Canon, I think is more or less the same, but Minolta, the system is definitely not as comprehensive as the above.

If you need low noise even at high ISO, 20D is the only choice. D70 may have more pleasant color immediately but you can tone it afterwards.

Money is the matter, of coarse.

[honyeong]

fycheung hing,
1 - "Nikon and Canon, I think is more or less the same, but Minolta, the system is definitely not as comprehensive as the above." - would you mind to explain what do you mean by comprehensive?
2 – “D70 may have more pleasant color immediately but you can tone it afterwards.” – do you mean that using D70 I would not need to use PS for retouching? In fact, I really want to avoid using PS retouching picture by picture. If it is the case, I think D70 would be more appropriate to me.
3 – Regarding the money, I was just trying to say that, since I’m looking for a label which can sustain future development (changing body/lens), I would not care to spend few more $ today (even some more thousands).

[fycheung]

1. Nikon and Canon definitely have more lens and accesories and more easy to get.

2. If you read through any newsgroups, you may notice that 20D is usually critized to have "dull" or "plain" in color. You can manually increased the tone and color setting in camera. I also notice the same things when comparing my 20D and Coolpix 990. But I think that 20D may be more natural in colour, but truth is not welcome, usually.

3. I have the same question 1 month ago, struggling between 20D and D70. Mind you I have used Nikon system for 20 years. I finally turn to 20D because it has amazing low noise, more natural color- I like the truth, very fast responce- no different from film SLR,and marginally better handling.

I hope I can help.

[honyeong]

fycheung hing, thankyou very much.
Your information is really useful … very appreciate.
Thans a lot.

[darrens]

冇所謂ge, 為何不加入Konica Minolta D7D作其中一個choice呢?
because KM has AS inside the camera body, you do not need to buy IS, VR....that can save you lots of money.
I guess KM D7D's make not much a difference with Nikon D70 while they are using the same CCD from Sony.
For D7D, if you are really concern AS enable can affected picture quality(noise), you can turn AS off.
KM D7D can also use old Minolta AF mount lens, so you do not need to worry about expensive new lens while Nikon D70 use D/G mount old lens cannot focus quick as AF-S lens is a really big problem with D70.
you should aware if you are going to buy 20D, go get 580EX, you will not regert;if not, please use RAw and photoshop to compansate the image sharpness, the picture will be much better.

[honyeong]

darrens hing, could you tell me what's 580EX?

[darrens]

Canon 外閃580EX supports E-TTL2

[honyeong]

darrens, thankyou very much.