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註冊: 2006-06-17

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題目Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 18 日

想買部12x 防震相機 (新手用)

- HK$4000 以下
- 最好用SD卡 (小弟有兩張1GB SD卡)
- 行貨

1. Panasonic Lumix FZ7 - HK$3780
2. Kodak EasyShare P850 - HK$3680

個心仲係15, 16
大家覺得邊個好D呢?

唔該比比意見~
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註冊: 2004-10-02

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 18 日

PUSH!
Kodak EasyShare P850
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impala




註冊: 2006-04-26

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 18 日

兩個跟機軟件都user friendly,但Panasonic 跟機軟件比較全面功能,例如有全景製作,及SDveiwer。
在拍攝Video時,P850用Mpeg 4,FZ7用Quick Time。
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impala




註冊: 2006-04-26

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 18 日

Sorry:
P850都是用Quick Time拍片,用多100元有600萬像素相機,當然選擇FZ7囉。
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怪俠




註冊: 2004-12-16

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 18 日

我其中一部DC係P850,用得都好滿意下!
價錢應該唔$3680啦!聽講有人唔使3000都入到貨。
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

MK FZ7 water good $25XX jar! Why buy Kodak P850?
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註冊: 2003-10-04

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

Sorry:
P850都是用Quick Time拍片,用多100元有600萬像素相機,當然選擇FZ7囉。<---但佢compression都係mp4 出黎個格式係avi ar...兩樣野黎ga...
quicktime都可以係motion jepg and mp4 ga
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靚蝦王




註冊: 2002-12-09

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

P850唔係 p880 喎, 呢部好似麻麻地, 我未用過, 不過睇sample就覺得冇 fz-7咁好, kodak好似出左一部新既叫 z612, 可以睇埋呢部喎, 都係高倍變焦 + 防手振
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impala




註冊: 2006-04-26

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

絕對同意﹕
Z612就有得同FZ-7比較。
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balance01




註冊: 2004-12-03

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

All handheld by Z612


1/3s, f/4, iso100, 35mm handheld



1/30s, f/4.8, iso100, 420mm handheld



1/40s, f/4.8, iso400, 420mm handheld
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balance01




註冊: 2004-12-03

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

All below by Z612


1/8s, f/4, iso100, 115mm handheld



0.3s, f/2.8, iso100, 35mm handheld



16s, f/8, iso80, 35mm, on stand
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balance01




註冊: 2004-12-03

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

P850 唔係用 MPEG4 架, 係 motion JPEG ?\nFZ7 都唔係 MPEG4


Z612 先係用 MPEG4 + 光學防手震
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

Go compare yourself,

http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=1&ma1=60&mo1=190&p1=973&ma2=18&mo2=173&p2=775&ph=2


Don't just see photo's taken by just one DC; compare the SAME scene. In the world of DC friends, some die hard guys may take a bias view on a particular BRAND (e.g. KXXXX, CXXXX, NXXXX, PXXXXX) DON'T BE FOOLED BY THESE GUYS as they may have their personal reason to promote a particular brand, e.g. they wanna sell their gargets at a higher 2nd hand market price

Do more homeworks, see unbiased reviews at

http://www.dpreview.com/
http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html
http://www.dcviews.com/

Be a smart consumer, don't be fooled by just one or two sources or even my words.

BEWARE, DCFXXXX's review may not be too valuable (u guess the reason lah)


I WAS ONCE fooled by a salesman who sold a V5x0 (KXXXX) to my friend & me who said that KXXXX brand was famous & taking photo very quickly; my friend eventually bought that DC at $2XXX, 3 days later he wanna sell that DC to me at $1500 because he did not like the huge amount of noise & the slow saving time after taking photo. I bought that DC to me & I played that DC for 1 month, then resold to 2nd hand shop $1400.
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balance01




註冊: 2004-12-03

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

我覺得而家?機 "好" 同 "差" 唔會爭咁遠,

FZ7, P850, S3IS, Z612 可以睇功能手感同外型來買, 各有優點同缺點, 但相片質素唔一定爭好遠.

Z612 只係用左幾日, 都係手持隨便影一?試機相, 腳架都冇用過, Long Exposure 都係放係欄杆之類.

其實所謂 unbiased reviews, 都係 biased, 因為各評論家都係睇自己喜好?寫, 有時有?優點, 評論唔重視, 例如 MPEG4 慳位, 好多評論都唔會點提
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: Panasonic FZ7 VS Kodak P850     Post time: 6 月 19 日

Balance01

of course high or low quality may be your personal view, but LENS SHARPNESS, CONTRACT, IMAGE SAVING TIME, BUFFER SIZE, CCD SIZE, NOISE LEVEL etc. are 100% not personal view.

For example, u may consider the image taken by your Z612 as cool or good, I personally think that the night shots are TOTALLY acceptable for a $1000 DC BUT NOT FOR A $3000 DC.

Reason:
1. full of flare
2. CA even near central
3. wrong colour balance (sodium street lamp is yellow, right? may be something wrong with auto white balance)
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