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Banon




註冊: 2005-08-20

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題目唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 14 日

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakv610/page9.asp

Overall conclusion
People who buy iPods are often mocked for ignoring cheaper, more capable MP3 players because they like the shiny white box and 'no need for a manual' interface. It's easy to forget sometimes that some people also buy cameras based more on their looks than their photographic capabilities, and the the EasyShare V610 certainly falls into that sector of the market. It's by no means a bad camera, it's just a camera that promises a lot more than it delivers, and one that - if judged purely on its output - is outperformed by most of its competitors.

Unusually I'm not going to talk too much about image quality here; it's not great, but the color is excellent and at the lowest ISO settings it's perfectly good enough for small (up to, say, 5x7 inches) prints or for viewing on a typical 1024x768 screen. If you're more demanding, want to produce larger prints or shoot in low light I'd suggest you turn around and walk away now.

On paper the V610 is an impressive feat of clever design and engineering; a camera with a 10x optical zoom range that is genuinely pocketable and slimmer than a supermodel on a crash diet is something truly unique in the market at the moment. The nearest competitor (the Panasonic TZ1) is positively chunky by comparison, though of course you do get image stabilization and considerably sharper pictures.

So if we're going to briefly turn a blind eye to the pixel-level image quality we need to look at what matters to the typical user of this kind of 'style' camera; exposure, color and focus accuracy, speed, interface, battery life and so on. Unfortunately even here it's a bit of a mixed bag; the focus at the long end of the zoom is, at times, dire, and in low light it's not that hot at the wide end either. I struggled to get a single usable shot indoors (in the daytime) without flash, as the focus struggled and the small maximum aperture caused camera shake problems even at ISO 400. And this was using the wideangle lens. Yet walking about shooting in bright daylight it was like using a different camera; or at least it was until I'd tried to snap a quick shot at the long 10x end of the zoom; 5 seconds to get from the wide setting, then another three whilst the focus system struggled to lock onto the subject tended to lose the moment, somewhat.

I can forgive the noise and softness issues in a camera like this (given the typical user will produce small prints), but I personally found some aspects of use so frustrating it was hard to enjoy having that big zoom in such a small camera. It's no good in low light, it struggles at the long end of the zoom and it's optically at its worst at the wide end, which is where most casual shots will be taken.

The V610 is a beautifully designed camera that has instant appeal (everyone here loved it when it came out of the box), and the innovative twin lens/CCD system is a clever solution to the limitations of lens size that keeps most ultra compact cameras firmly in the 3x zoom range. As it stands, I'd say this; if you want a really compact camera that performs superbly in all conditions, forget about the 10x zoom; if you really want a big zoom in a compact package, look at the (cheaper and more capable, though bulkier) Panasonic TZ1. If you've fallen for the V610's good looks, you really, really need something this slim and don't find the issues mentioned here too much of a compromise I'm sure you'll love it. Me, I'd wait for the V610's successor, which will hopefully see Kodak iron out some of this promising but flawed camera's more annoying problems.

Detail Rating (out of 10)
Build quality 9.5
Ergonomics & handling 6.5
Features 6.5
Image quality 6.5
Optics 6.5
Performance (speed) 6.5
Value 7.0

(just about) Above Average
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Banon




註冊: 2005-08-20

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 14 日

It's by no means a bad camera, it's just a camera that promises a lot more than it delivers, and one that - if judged purely on its output - is outperformed by most of its competitors.
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dcpower




註冊: 2003-12-09

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 14 日

從sample睇到成像只有影相手機的畫質,濛查查無detail,應算係我見過咁多dc中最差..
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gapman




註冊: 2002-10-27

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 14 日

I think it's normal ! V570 is way better than V610 !
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gancheong




註冊: 2005-08-05

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 17 日

為 V610 平反......

Kodak V610 評介:
http://www.dcview.com.tw/article/readarticle.asp?id=4671

Kodak V610 實拍:
http://www.dcview.com.tw/article/readarticle.asp?id=4699

大家不妨參考一下 V610 既評價、映出黎既相,冇樓主 post 個網講得咁差,我估係咁岩個網用黎 test 個部機有少少問題,如果唔係以相機黎講冇可能映得咁差......
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Banon




註冊: 2005-08-20

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 17 日

咁Koadk UK就抵打啦!!!!
明知人o地試機都比部有少少問題的機..........


哈哈哈哈!
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kingkonghk




註冊: 2003-01-27

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 17 日

買架玩下咪知囉
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peterchan04




註冊: 2004-11-27

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 17 日



kodak 冇錢賺... 都係 dpreview 寫成噤...?

一早 kodak 就應該 買佐 minolta
噤 重有 d 希望 出番 d 好 機....
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 18 日

Kodak............ sold all DC division already.
If quality of its DC is excellent, will this happen?

Kodak is GOOD, but many others are BETTER.

if u don't believe go to

http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=1&ma1=60&ma2=24&mo2=222&p2=1218&ph=2

to compare your beloved Kodak with others DC, enjoy!
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alvincyt




註冊: 2003-01-15

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 18 日

"Kodak............ sold all DC division already.
If quality of its DC is excellent, will this happen?"

照咁講,Minolta同Contax既DC應該差過BenQ, Samsung, Sony, 甚至Premier了, right?
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peterchan04




註冊: 2004-11-27

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 18 日


kodak 猛出 大 ccd, cmos....
又 medium format...
又 full-frame
不過呢d 吾係 十幾億 消費者 想要既 野.

camera design 就怪怪地... twin lens design 機...?
v705, v610, c875, c743, c643, c533, c433, p712, z612....
2006 年呢 d 機個 樣真 係 吾多 update...

v550, v530... 2005 年 出左又冇 食住 上... ?


SAMSUNG... nv7 ops, nv10, nv3... 呢 3 部新機 design 就 more appealing.
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 唉~~Dpreview 寫到Kodak V610好差喎 :(     Post time: 8 月 18 日

alvincyt

""照咁講,Minolta同Contax既DC應該差過BenQ, Samsung, Sony, 甚至Premier了, right?""" <=====This is your logic, not mine....



Kodak is like "betamax"? betamx is totally dead in the consumer market.

Kodak is similar to other big companies in digital age, where are the other BIG NAMES in photography such as, AlfX, MINXX, RolXX.....?

Minolta, Contax (or Yashica or Kyocera), BenQ , RolXX, MINXX & even RICXX also have OEM DC from Premier
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d2c




註冊: 2005-05-05

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d2c




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d2c




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