近日收到不少網友意見,指 DCFever.com「吹水閒聊」充斥愈來愈多粗言穢語、人身攻擊、誹謗等不理性討論。作為 一個以攝影興趣為主題的網站,此等漫罵式討論已超出 DCFever.com 設立討論區之原意。DCFever.com 呼籲大家以 攝影交流為目的作理性討論,並正密切留意事態的發展。
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hanny
註冊: 2006-02-10
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pongyee
註冊: 2006-03-04
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 2 日 |
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The question is, which one rebuilt the original colour?
BTW, the two pictures are different in exposure value, the Nikon's photo is brighter.
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hanny
註冊: 2006-02-10
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 2 日 |
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do any c-hing have a better method for the white balance seting for d200 d80 ?that not using in computer to set ?
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Obi-Wan
註冊: 2006-02-06
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 2 日 |
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hanny
That concerns colour tune & white balance.
That in fact depends on what the photography wants. THERE IS NO WB STANDARD for a DC even if u use custom white balance.
Different sensor & circuit combinations different colour tone or style that suits different people.
For me, I don't use CAN0N nor NIKON (except D40X) to shoot portrait, the colour from their DSLR is just not the taste I like (I prefer more pink skin, more red lips), I HATE the direct JPEG from DC with GREY SKIN, BROWN LIPS.
If u like the pink skin, red lips, why don't u try
SONY's DSLR & R1, they give very colourful jpeg out of the camera.
happy shootin man
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Obi-Wan
註冊: 2006-02-06
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 2 日 |
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d2c if u use d40/d50/d80 & compare the color with those taken if D40X, u will know how lovely the colour on portrait D40X offers.
That is not related to sRGB, it is related to the sensor, sampling method & circuit design related to how the different light spectrum recorded is reproduced.
E.g. for DC A, 10 red photons hit the sensor, it gives a signal of 10 units
10 green photons hit the sensor, it gives a signal of 10 units
BUT for DC B, 10 red photons hit the sensor, it gives a signal of 11 units if the manufacturer wants to emphrasize the RED
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barryspc
註冊: 2006-02-17
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 2 日 |
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actually maybe you can try customising the tone curve..
I loaded a different set of curve into my D70 and really brought up the red.
I would say the skin tone of my D70 is close to my Fuji S3pro. perhaps 90%
I have tried compare Adobe RGB and SRGB and the result is obvious, most of our monitor do not have Adobe RGB colour space thus pics shows up grey and colour satuation low. SRGB is better for viewing on most monitor screen and for printing at photo lab,
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kingkonghk
註冊: 2003-01-27
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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我估都係個人問題, 成日見發表區有人用D70影得好靚, 有人用300D又係影得好靚, 點解你唔問下佢地?
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hanny
註冊: 2006-02-10
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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i can say the 6mp ccd nikon color is better than the 10mp like d40x d80 and d200
i can sure that becasue all console i have in the say enviroment
d40 color for people face is better than d200 the 10mp ccd make me feel very grey
i try to make the sb-800 value lower or i must set the color to very vivi
than better buy if not do this the 10mp d80 d200 all very very grey
you can say this is depend on what you like
but i think if a profresstional photograhter will not accept what the grey like picture
it make the face like a dead people
but the nikon d40 d50 d70 is more color better than the 10mp but only is lower resulution
i wish the new d3 and d300 have a better color for it
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hanny
註冊: 2006-02-10
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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also not the problem on me
you can see in the dcfever 作 品 發 表 區
about 90% more of d200 and d80 face picture is very grey
i think if people accept becasue they just have d80 or d200
if you have more brand console like pentax canon or olympic
you will feel that d200 and d80 face picture is very very bad
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xeonlee
註冊: 2005-10-22
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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Dudes, the similar nikon grey pic topic has been discussed long time ago (and again and again... )
With most Nikon dslr cameras, you need to work more than others. Because the higher-graded (begin with entry level) Nikon cameras are designed to keep most of the details, and this result in grey tone and under exp. We can see this beginning from D70 series already.
Personally I am not a Nikon fans and I don't just use Nikon cameras. I don't really see a problem with Nikon cameras' grey pics. Besides, grey picture gives us a safety net when we fail to expose or in crazy light soruced enviroment, at least we have a chance to save some unique and valuable pictures. This specail is really comparable with other brands.
Moreover, you talked professionals, who professionals do not work after they shot the pictures.
A guy said me a joke, "we shot a picture in 1/4000s, but we need 4000s to make it better."
This was what people doing from the stone age of camera. And also the reason of RAW file format exists today.
Alright enough of history and theory.
I want to ask is that a camera body really mean that much in shooting picture?
You want the true color. but what do you want truely? realistic? sexy? love? sorrow? nature?
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If you want to take jpeg, you should pick one more prosumerDC/D40/D50 as you're rich enough.
It gives you quite good pics without minding anything after you pressed on the shutter.
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here is a joke. when D3 and D300 come, our D2 or D200 will instantly shoot @!#$ pictues.
And, when D4 come, our D3 will give @!#$ also.
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I found the reason why I rarely come dcfever.
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kingkonghk
註冊: 2003-01-27
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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我都見過發表區有人用d200影得好靚喎, 只要有人影得到, 即係可以靚啦
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王迦南
註冊: 2007-06-10
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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如果係主觀意見的,喜歡用C記咪用C記囉,所有流行牌子都影得靚,喜歡C記都係正常的,用吧!
如果係理性討論研究,應該用raw,因每部機的設定各有風格。並要用同一曝光值,且同一畫面,大頭相與半身相跟本就有許多不同。
先前亦已提過,各牌子機網上都找到靚照片的,若你用N記影得唔好,那是N記唔啱你,或是你唔識用N記機而已。
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Obi-Wan
註冊: 2006-02-06
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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kingkonghk
May be hanny means "direct JPEG" from D200, most of the pictures posted are fine toned by post-processing.
I can use my 2 MP phone to take several pictures & use autostitch to join them together to give a 20 MP pictures & PS it to beat a picture taken with my FF 5D.
BUT do you really want to use a 2MP cam phone to shoot?
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mk07
註冊: 2004-06-01
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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hanny
其實d80同d200都比以前易用ka la~無感灰
d100仲難掌握tim,試試過難控制 bw colour~
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kingkonghk
註冊: 2003-01-27
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Re: why nikon photo very grey color of the white balance Post time: 9 月 3 日 |
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都係個人喜好啦, 唔靚就買第2隻囉
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