[Ranki]

首先, 講下我的背景先.

我已經是ricoh gx100 的機主, 想升級dslr, 但唔想放棄gx100, 因為它的snapshot 一流 (但順便問下, 點樣才可以post 相上forum???)

我的budget 是連body + kit 鏡+ (大約) 50-200鏡 (副廠都ok, 想一鏡走天涯)大約1萬元. 有什麼好選擇???

有人提議canon 450d, 但好似貴得來同400d 差不多. 有人提議e510, 但很多人對olympic 有很大意見.

[gwu1]

With your budget, I suggest 450D kit at $6xxx. 55-250mm IS is about $17xx. Good lens. 450D has faster focusing speed and larger viewfinder than 400D or E510.

[gwu1]

You can find how to post pic at the 400D thread, p.116.

[bb1032003]

Ranki,

Forget about E-510 unless you only use iso 100 and 200 above iso 400 the noise is too much to be acceptable.

The sensor for 4/3 system is too small, but if you never use high iso it may not be a big problem.

450D with kit lens 18-55IS + 55-250IS + 50mm f 1.8 ($600 only) can cover almost all situation you will need with one large apeture lens for portrait or shallow depth of field photos and well within 10K.

Function for 450D is different from 400D, with liveview, spot metering,14 bit A/D convertor, high tone priority, auto optimising and 3" monitor.

[hksamsunguser]

450D真係好精緻, 3"mon, 鏡又多選擇, 成個system支援好足夠,

要升級又有齊40D,5D, 有買貴冇買錯!

e510!? 就出e520 la, e510跌到冇朋友, 當Prosumer抵玩,

始終Canon成熟過oly好多, 要快有40D, 要超班畫質有5D!

Oly!? 冇升級餘地... 全線10M, ISO又未如理想... 認真玩DSLR都係放棄OM...

[hksamsunguser]

補充:

本人唔係針對om, 係講實情,

我諗只係小部份人誤解先會以為係"針對"...

亦唔排除有olympus"員工"在dcfever討論區進行廣告式話題...

因為近排同類型o既話題已經重覆好多次.................

[Lai.Terry]

買一部 dslr 只為要選用到高 iso 1600 或楼上才優勝，那麼低 iso 100-800 畫就輸哂，咁就恭喜你嘅 point 囉！

[Lai.Terry]

其實，小弟覺得每個 System 都有它嘅優點，無謂因自已所好而強人於難。新師弟有事所求，盡量给意見便是。唔通我叫佢買 Lecia 或 Contax 咩？
廣告多，唔等如好，只是你嘅錢多花在廣告上，而不是在開發機能或鏡頭上。無謂誤導別人以娱自已，多行善，多積德。
今日睇到西環一單跳楼新聞已有點心痛，人匆匆數十年，令人開心，自已開心，處處攻擊人，一知半解，為何？

[pongyee]

>> 買一部 dslr 只為要選用到高 iso 1600 或楼上才優勝...

咁冇乜唔妥。

只要支付得來，多數人都希望所買的東西越多功能越好。消費品亦以功能多多作號召。

除非價錢昂貴到不能接受。

以事論事，勿當作針對為盼。

[lmcenoch]

Ranki :

我和你一樣都是GX100機主，跟著轉用OM，唯一不同是我曾用N記

D40X，我個人亦都喜歡C記，多選擇和我有不少好友用，如：400D、40D等

(高階未用過)。正如上面有C Hing所言，這話題已講過好多遍，本不用再

談，但事實並非這樣，N、O記各有特色( C記不談，因自己未用過，留待C記

C hing們分享)，我選擇O記是基於以下幾方面：

1. 不同相機網站測試。(樓主可在網上查看E510奪過什麼獎)

2. 相片質素

3. 便携性

4. 價錢

若樓主和我想法一樣，不妨考慮O記(我要強調，我是教育工作者，不是O記

粉絲)，若樓主喜歡與人多分享，不妨看看身邊朋友用什麼機多，若是C記，

不妨考慮C記，因有問題，如機身、買鏡等，隨時有人問和可以分享鏡頭，

是一件樂事，我剛認識幾位中學老師，有一位買了Sony，跟著兩位又買

Sony，見他們時時分享相機和鏡頭心得，實在令用O記的我羨慕，但我要強

調Sony派並沒有排斥我，反而非常欣賞我部E510 Kit 鏡。

我自己覺得現今科技，各廠商相機都非常了得，有時許多人批評某相機質

素，往往要放大A3 size才稍為看到，如黑角、白點等，我不是專家，不知是

否有必須。

又有人批評C記走焦和味精重，我個人並不相信，第一，C記是大牌子，走焦

是嚴重的事，若是真的！豈會有這麼多人用C記？難道衆人皆醉我獨醒。第

二味精重與否，不如說是色彩濃或淡，這是個人喜好，沒有好與不好，就如

GX100，樓主應該同意，GX100是偏淡或自然，我有不少朋友用C記400D，

都說相是偏淡，證明同一牌子，不一定有同一問題……

若樓主決定買C記450D，我相信一定是好選擇，但不應買400D，因科技一

日千里，買新機當然要買新科技，同樣買O記，就等E520，不應買E510。

(這全是個人看法)希望樓主將來加入dslr大家庭時，要以「相」會友，不要以

「機」會友，哪怕他人是用的是DC機，有容乃大。

[largeliang]

Panasonic L1:
with Leica lens...

[bb1032003]

I don't mean to start a fright here but I am disappointed by someone only quoted part of my writing here turns a friendly discussion to personal attack !!!

To have a fair view, please go to the link below and check the comparison between E510 and 400D even in low iso.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse510/page24.asp

If anyone think the low iso for E510 is better than 400D please have a detail look.

I am not American so I won't force anyone to believe what I said just my own opinion but please support with facts. To further demonstrate the high iso performance of 400D my old photo is posted here,

400D with 17-55 f2.8 IS, at iso 1600, f2.8, 1/8" and focal length 55mm by the way sorry for the width as it is an old photo and I don't want to reprocess it. Not any post processing just taken by RAW and converted by the Canon software direct from RAW and with reduced size.

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[gwu1]

I used 400D and am using 450D and E510.

No doubt the noise control at high ISO in 400D or 450D is much better than E510. For myself, I would not go beyond ISO 400 when I use E510 (it is quite okay at ISO 400).

If budget allows and the buyer would buy more than just the kit lens, I recommend 450D or 400D because the Canon system has more lens and other accessories in support. There are more things to play with.

If budget is tight and buyer only gets the kit lens, E510 kit set at $4xxx is of great value. E510 is quite okay at ISO 100-400. People say OM provides cheaper lenses and lighter lenses. From my experience, it is not true. If you choose a system (lens, flash......), I would choose Canon because there is good support from Canon and from other brands like Sigma and Tamron etc.

Hope this helps the potential buyer.

[lmcenoch]

<<please support with facts.>>

i also hope that.

http://www.photosharp.com.tw/photosharp/Content.aspx?News_No=4750&Lang=0

[Legacy-RS]

因買機已發覺......有錯勿插
當日我買完40D之後,就去買副廠鏡頭(A16)啦
點知去左成10間都只有for N記用,for C記用就賣晒
點解呢.............?



C記市場佔有率問題..!