[Nailimixam]

So being original is what?

but after a second thought.... is it possible to be "original" nowadays in photography....


anyway I just made this post to watch it sink.

[200448]

世界沒有人可以 不抄不偷 咁 生活下來。

人生第一個學習的生字是抄別人說話以來，
第一個字唔係自己講，係由爸爸媽媽裡學回來。
爸爸媽媽說話亦有上一代學回來，人去抄係好正常。
「抄」這一字是一代又一代人往流傳的表達方式的一種叫法。

藝術係可以偷，論到「初」being original ，
「初」是一件無版權事物，在事件出現之前為無物。
如果在「初」之前以已經定了結論，它是不能被複製的話。
So being of beginning original is what happening ?
被列為版權，是人在「初」之後下一個生為。
版權 is a behavior of after beginning , it is not original

好多時人對人做出來 behavior ，有各種不同睇法。
你覺得自己 behavior 先係 original，
咁點去解釋你這個做法是你先為之最初就你自己先攪呢 ?

睇落事實，大家都有眼耳口鼻，其他人都同你一樣有眼耳口鼻
唔通這些是其他人抄襲你。所以佢先才會有眼耳口鼻。
有些事，人人是與生俱來就有的事，無什麼意思要分先後次序，
抄同偷。 No first , No second !

ok ，不抄不偷 就是一個開始的話，另一個角度去講這件事。
如果你能夠做到一件事是別人 抄不到，偷不了。
這你就是一個「好」「偉大」的藝術家了。好偉大唷 !

無一個 "original" 是可以盲理地沒有 second thought
那是自我的人留給自己內心世界的產物，請不要公諸同好。
如果為自己防止 second thought 這是最好的做法 ! 好偉大唷 !

well , 「好的藝術家抄，偉大的藝術家偷 」我成立這個說法是正確 !
影相人人都係咁咖啦 ! 有咩理由話佢似以前有人做過，就話佢無價值。

我只係會問，這個藝術家做的作品升華至一個水平，
係唔會咁易抄，咁易偷 ?

抄來抄去，偷來偷去都是 d 低水平作品，
好勁咩 ! 咪由佢抄飽佢偷飽佢，有咩問題呢 !

[200448]

被列為版權，是人在「初」之後下一個行為。
版權 is a behavior of after beginning , it is not original

[老抽]

今曰至知
原來仁兄個ID係代表20040408

有兩句俗話
天下文章一大抄 / 熟讀唐詩三百首,不會唸詩也會偷

thats why............

[亞典波羅]

所謂的藝術家, 就係整左一 pat 野出黎, 看家 get 唔到後就話係藝術品, 而自稱藝術家.

"藝術"都係用來幫自己粉飾的字眼.

講個經驗俾大家, 香港有人比賽贏左季軍, 但係張相俾人係咁彈, 得獎者就自稱為"半個藝術家", 佢都自稱自己大作只能贏比賽去換錢買奶粉 ^_^

[peterchan04]

噤......
而家 canon 5d mk2 算吾算 抄 nikon d700...??
一話 nikon d700 抄 canon 5d...???

[maximilianyuen]

damn dcfever's auto logout. I curse the idiot admins of whatever they think
dcfever need such high level of security for what?

my whole passage is gone......

just make it short, I can't follow his logic about how facial organs can related to copy/steal concept
I can't even start a counter argument for I can't find any points to refute....

anyway, here's what I am thinking when I post this question, and sorry for being abstract for I have no mood to type it as good as I did in the first time...

To me, Picasso's art got little or simply no aesthetic value, what make his work art is his originality, the ability to applying Chinese painting's 3 points perspective into traditional Western naturalistic 1 point perspective, and creating his fragmented, multiple perspective painting in a flat canvas.

And this partly explain why after Picasso, cubism has been washed out from the main stream, for it leaves no room for being "original", even Picasso before his dead he cannot have any major break through, but by using collage to create some of his final artwork ( his finger ain't good at painting is one of the reasons, i admit)


the very same explanation can be used to describe the art movement as well (pre modernism era, I simply can't understand modern art)

you will notice that one art period is often end with the most noticeable artists, e.g Da vinci, Raphael and Michelangelo successfully terminate the Renaissance, for no artist afterward can surpass these masters
and they kind of going extreme to be Original, e.g Mannerism's Long Neck Madonna, in which artists tried to be original by painting human body in a wrong proportion.....

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and when I link my thinking to my photograph, I believe that I am doomed to be a photographer :P

[200448]

>今曰至知
>原來仁兄個ID係代表20040408

所以我比較鐘意人地叫我做「年份兄」，多過叫「數字兄」。
小數知道我的人才許可叫我做「仁兄」。: )

>damn dcfever's auto logout. I curse the idiot admins of whatever they think
>dcfever need such high level of security for what?

時運總是有高有低 !

[200448]

> 好的藝術家抄，偉大的藝術家偷 ----by Picasso

行為在於時間上轉變，
本世紀同舊世紀的抄好唔同。
今時今日 抄 可能表示 copy and paste，或者其他 easy to do 的行為。
在 Picasso 的年代， d 畫家抄一幅畫是否多麼,需要時間呢 !

你要明白那時沒有印刷術，加上，
同埋 d 畫家 ( 藝術家 ) 依靠畫壁畫為生。
你叫佢抄，可能同從新做過沒什麼分別。
天花版有天使，總之 d 女性要畫到無著上身，
代表人民要有開放思想。出錢的人唔理係咪男人，
佢只係想咁睇就咁睇。

> ( his finger ain't good at painting is one of the reasons, i admit)

有時今日科技是可以能到一個植物人，
純粹得隻眼可以活動，都可以用電腦畫一張賀咭。
一般人好少畫得咁小細緻，但用一個小時才畫到兩個點同一個u加一個圓形
我相信這個 微笑 icon，植物人可以畫得好過正常人。
只小一個圖案，人會花得上時間去用心畫。

某年咪話有個畫家被醫學証明為盲人﹐都畫到靚作品。
個時，dcfever d 吹水咪話 d 盲既可唔可以影到靚相。如此 :
什麼人都可以做到抄同偷之下，反而會令人叫佢做一個 :
真真正正一個好偉大的藝術家，不是一份吹噓，是一份讚美。

> 好的藝術家抄，偉大的藝術家偷 ----by Picasso

認真 d 再看看，Picasso 點樣話什麼是「好的」同什麼是「偉大的」
佢這兩句是有前後做左比較，抄的藝術家是好，偷的藝術家另再稱為偉大
怎麼吹噓一個藝術家是好的，怎麼讚美是一個藝術家是偉大的。
兩行字之間的一個豆號，包含有一千幾百字講「這抄變偷」的過程，
你又知道多小 ? 怎麼是抄 ? 怎麼是偷 ?

這是我見這句子的第一個想法。我希望大家會之後再討論 ( 吹水 ) 下去。
否則我之前幾百字的藥引就沒什麼意思。你到了我想去講的個一頁未呀 !

>anyway I just made this post to watch it sink.

我有興趣的事，我就不會讓佢沉 !