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okglue
註冊: 2004-11-14
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業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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其實業餘攝影,Full Frame 機係唔係禁重要?
1 . 質素方面分別大不大?定是鏡頭質素重要 d?
2. 除左 Full Frame 機可影得比較 wide 之外,重有無其他主要分別?
3. Full Frame 機比較重身,業餘攝影可唔可以彌補到功能同質素既差別?
業餘人仕買 Full Frame 機時會用乜心態?又主要為左乜呢?
(show off 的話點解唔買隻幾十萬釵既PP,或江斯單頓名 錶?,起碼輕d 威d )
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Obi-Wan
註冊: 2006-02-06
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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其實業餘攝影,Full Frame 機係唔係禁重要?
"1 . 質素方面分別大不大?
" YES, only FF can give the necessary NARROW depth of field, only FF can give u the 180° FISH EYE
"定是鏡頭質素重要 d?
"both lenses and body are important, but lenses are more important"
"2. 除左 Full Frame 機可影得比較 wide 之外,重有無其他主要分別?"
As said, FF can give a very narrow depth of field & use 180° fish
3. Full Frame 機比較重身,業餘攝影可唔可以彌補到功能同質素既差別?
That depends on the reader who reads the photo, if the reader can distinguish between FF and APS-C sensor JUST from the photo, then FF is a "must"
BUT, if the reader is just like me --- I cannot distinguish just from the photo, then no different and not necessary to buy FF.
For your references: Many many wedding taking companies in China use only CANON 400D to take wedding photos which can be enlarged to up to 60"!
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okglue
註冊: 2004-11-14
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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Thanks for your input.
Honestly, just like me as a amateur photographer, i really cannot distinguish between FF and APS-C from the photo.
What is narrow depth of Field? sorry for my lack of this kind of knowledge..
I am trying to make myself distinguish between FF and APS-C, but i have a long way to go.
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william_lau
註冊: 2007-02-03
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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淺景深︰FF機的景深係淺過APS-C機的,其實條數好易計,假設其他因素不變,焦距越長,景深越淺。 現假設光圈不變,50MM放在APS-C機上(X1.6) = 80MM效果,而實質上景深是50MM的水平。 而80MM放在FF機,景深是真正80MM畀到你的,所以FF機的景深係淺過APS-C機的。
另一優點係由於FF機感光元密度冇APS-C機咁大,佢吸光能力係好過APS-C機,所以在高ISO下,FF機畫面係好過APS-C機好多。
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Obi-Wan
註冊: 2006-02-06
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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thanks william_lau
another link
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%AF%E6%B7%B1
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Thomas123456
註冊: 2008-12-01
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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FF demands a lot from the lens. which means u would be spending a lot more.
For example: 40D with 50 1.2 L to me has the same effect as 5DII with 85 1.2L which cost a lot less. And without the black corner correction function, APS-C will out perform the FF. U can use very old lens from canon and 3rd party brand with APS-C which on FF will propbably show more black corners (unless u correct manually on computer).
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csmarco
註冊: 2008-04-30
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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okglue,
業餘攝影,FF機已經去到好合理的價位.
當然,鏡頭質素確實始終重要一點,所以買旗艦鏡頭的錢遠較買旗艦相機為高.
但FF機可以用盡每支鏡頭的焦距,而不用1.6X,鏡頭咁貴重要蝕埋WIDE,唔划算喎.
TELE方面佢又唔係真1.6X喎,否則邊有人買1.4X和2X增距鏡呢?
FF機的CMOS比非FF機的CMOS大,吸光率高,抑躁能力強,抗雜訊自然比較好.
FF機比較重,1系更重,機重穩定性高.
FF機身較大,1系更大,機身大可以提高平衡能力,橫度直度亦非常就手.
所以我雖冇1系機,但係我的5D和400D相機必定長期裝上直度及兩枚電池,
令到機身較重可以較穩定,亦可令其平衡力較好,拍攝相片的持續數量較高.
買機用有乜心態?攝影囉,而家啲相機咁平,點SHOW OFF呀?
幾十萬一隻的百達翡麗或者江詩丹頓,個款都係好普通.亦唔係個個人會識.
帶百達翡麗或者江詩丹頓,唔係好威咋,佢地有苦自己知,江湖救急,易手價要蝕好多,而且易手市場異常窄.
二叔公鍾意收勞力士多啲,貪佢夠親民,快甩手.
C,N品牌的相機貴得去邊,邊夠L,H品牌貴,L,H一部普通相機,唔使FF,唔使高像素,都貴過C,N品牌多多聲.
總之貴有貴影,平有平影,各自各精彩.
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Ison
註冊: 2008-04-12
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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我有個朋友係用FF , 剛好上次外拍拍到差不多的相, 有時就咁睇都唔知邊張係FF, 邊張係APS-C ^_^都幾有趣.
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okglue
註冊: 2004-11-14
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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各師兄講既都不常沒有道理,但以上Ison 兄兩張相黎睇,真係唔係係人都識分邊張係Full Frame 邊張係 Non Full Frame 呢?(小弟真係唔識) ,如果係禁,我會唔會識分有乜唔同先去買 Full Frame 機呢?
(其實Non DLSR (細機) 同 DLSR 機 分別會相對地比較容易分)
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Xplore
註冊: 2005-01-30
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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是但啦 .................
咁執著 FF 干嗎..........
原理係一件事, 張相睇又一件事
FF 影淺景深係有少少分別
咁係 APS-C 你又係咪張張放盡光圈先
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JSmith
註冊: 2006-07-18
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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要分張相係用咪FF影,係咪有啲多餘呢?張相影得好就好,唔好就唔好。
如果當初啲廠商一早就出FF而從來冇ASP出現,邊度會搞到宜家咁。俾廠家玩弄緊,但大家又樂此不疲..........
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Ison
註冊: 2008-04-12
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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完全同意, 話鬼知係乜機, 影得好相就係好機啦, 所以現在佢有佢陶醉佢的FF, 我有我enjoy我的50D^_^
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JSmith
註冊: 2006-07-18
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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sorry.....應該係「.......從來冇APS出現.......」
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Xplore
註冊: 2005-01-30
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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咩 FF 兩個世界............我次次睇完咀角都戚一戚
咁 Enjoy FF, 用返 Film 咪搞掂晒
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JSmith
註冊: 2006-07-18
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Re: 業餘攝影 : Full Frame or Non Full Frame Post time: 2 月 23 日 |
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FF唔係唔好,好處亦多,但唔係用呢分高手低手,show off口水多
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