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afriwong




註冊: 2008-06-06

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題目影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 13 日

有時唔夠光時又唔用得閃(如室內影運動)時會影RAW (想快門Over 1/400)Under兩級再用DPP整光佢但會見到Noice,係因為我用了ISO400定係因為影Under就一定會咁?各Ching會用ISO1600來替代嗎?我怕都係勁多Noice,有時用Noice Reduction做完效果又好似唔係好好咁…你地會用咩Setting做Noice Reduction?本人用40D的…唔通只有上FF呢條路?但呢排影東亞運動會真係覺得部機快真係好好玩(當然唔夠1仔快啦﹗)怕用了5D2之後追焦冇40D咁好,連拍就一定唔洗講啦…各Ching點睇?
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Marksman01




註冊: 2008-11-24

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 13 日

My personal experience the 5D2 have the same or faster AI servo than the 40D's. Just an issue if you really need spray and pray by the higher fps.
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afriwong




註冊: 2008-06-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 13 日

我都上過Canon玩過5D2,都覺得中間點對焦都算快,但其他點就唔知…你係咪都覺得都好快?
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kcstudiohk




註冊: 2008-09-25

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 13 日

咁樣影.. 分分鐘多 noise 過你用 iso1600
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afriwong




註冊: 2008-06-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 13 日

想問下點解?咁真係用ISO1600好過?定用ISO800再Under一級?你地點reduce noice?
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

afriwong

I have both 50D & 5D2, recently I only use two 50D for jobs because the AF of 5D2 is too slow to take fast moving objects. 40D is more or less the same responsive as 50D. If u upgrade to 5D2 & sell 40D, u may not have the responsiveness of 40D.

At first I used one 20D & one 50D for jobs, after buying the 5D2, I used 50D+5D2 for several wedding jobs. When I set to servo AF & enabled all the hidden AF points of 5D2, the AF speed & accuracy is at most 50% of 50D, many photos on fast moving objects were out focus. Later I bought another 50D to replace the 20D & 5D2. If u are an amateur, u can use 5D2 for fast moving objects, because u can retake whenever u like. For those who gain $ from photography, we don't have 2nd chance to take the photo again. So vote for 40D, 50D, 7D, 1D2/3/4 or 1Ds 2/3 for sport.

U can go to the CANON CS to try moving objects, e.g. u pan the lens & see see whether the 5D2 servo AF can catch the focus.
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siubi09




註冊: 2009-04-07

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

有無試過ISO 800 +1VE ? 1/400 你咪要F2.0

現場先影張包圍相~(唔明請參考說明書.....)

邊個SETTING正確才決定用邊個

BTW室內ISO400 又要1/400 你咪要F2.0有無咁TELE呀 CHING
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afriwong




註冊: 2008-06-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

To. siubi09: 因為在室內場影運動所以要快啲…得1/100我唔手震個主角都郁…同埋始終Zoom到400mm始終都係快啲安心啲,所以想請教下點Set好…我都會再睇下說明書,但都可唔可以講多少少包圍相?你意思係-1EV, 0EV, +1EV?唔係話寧影Under都唔好影Over?真係想問的,唔係玩嘢…
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afriwong




註冊: 2008-06-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

To: Obi-Wan
中間以外的對焦點真係咁唔好?得閒上去玩下先…ISO同影Under同Noice Reduction有咩意見?呢排見好多人影Wedding都係用5D2反而唔係好多用1仔,係咪因為太貴?
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

afriwong
u can forget the other AF points for servo AF (simply useless for tracking fast moving objects such as birds)

I used to be one of the guys who gain $ by taking wedding photos, I saw many many amateurs using 5D2 in wedding, but they usually use the GREEN button mode, I use M mode ISO 800 with usually 1/30 to catch indoor light atmosphere. I used a yellow / brown filter on my flash lights & set the WB to tungsten when indoor. I only use bounce card but no diffuser.

The noise level of 5D2 even 3200 is acceptable, but 50D at most 1600. I don't take RAW in wedding (as u gonna missed some important photos when the buffer is full), I only play RAW in my leisure time.
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Marksman01




註冊: 2008-11-24

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

Haha ... I saw many amateurs using xxxD, 5D or 5D2 taling wedding photos better than those so call professional who gain $ by taking wedding photos. Interesting!

Amateurs = not professional or poor photography skill?
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Marksman01




註冊: 2008-11-24

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

http://www.dchome.net/viewthread.php?tid=796296&extra=page%3D1&page=3

Some people found the 50D can't focus, you believe?
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

Marksman01
a good definition of a photography pro = "who gain majority of its income from photography" <== from Ken Rockwell

If u have $ u can buy a 50D & compare with 5D2 for AF performance. As I already have 2 50D & 5D2, I did many comparisons b4.

Also
"Amateurs = not professional or poor photography skill? " NOT always true.

One thing a pro does is always shoot in M, custom WB.

I am not a pro now, as I retired already. U still have many many years to go to that stage. Learn more!
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Marksman01




註冊: 2008-11-24

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

Sorry Obi-wan I would disagree your perception as state above. Hope you don't mind. Actually I shoot my Nikon FM2 and Mamiya in manual, can't find a reason to tell people it is professional.

For the gear, I used a 40D for one years and taken over 10 thousands of action pictures, the AF is same as the 50D as I tried my friend's.
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 影RAW Under兩級     Post time: 12 月 14 日

Marksman01
Many young people may be richer than me to buy whatever equipment & fire whatever shutter counts. But I gave up my RB67 in 198x to shoot with Nikon F3, then switch to CANON because AF speed of Nikon at that years were much weaker than CANON. Also I sold my 40D long time ago as its shutter button was not that responsive after several months usage.

I like shooting flying birds, but I don't shoot over 10 thousands of action pictures on flying birds. Would u mind posting these action photos with 5D2 on dcfever, to let us share?

I did posted many flying birds in dcfever, but none of them are taken with 5D2, because they are not sharp enough to post.

I share my experience on the equipment I owned. If any forum reader find that useful, that's good.
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