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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

The safety shutter speed rule (安全快門)

safety shutter speed = 1/{equivalent-35-mm-focal-length} second

Quote from
http://www.techniphoto.com/wiki/index.php?title=The_shutter_speed_rule

"The usual translation in the digital world for APS-C sensors is that you should take the crop factor into account (1.5). This means that a 200mm lens will give you a field of view equivalent to a 300mm on a 35mm camera and hence will need a shutter speed of 1/300 sec or faster. "

There is a mathematic proof for those who loves maths.
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reflexboy




註冊: 2009-02-23

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

Copy and paste again? 

Someone really keen on making thing as complicated as possible! He might think it would be easier to intimidated others that way.


Do us a favour. If u know it  well. Just use his formula to calculate the result of using 135mm and remember to show your steps.

Let me tackle it with the simplest explanination.

If 1/focal length X crop factor stands strong. Then pixels should never be counted as a factor for safety shutter speed. We all know crop factor is about the sensor size. 

Interestingly, if number of pixels is counted at a factor of calculating the safety shutter speed. Then the  crop factor should never be counted. Coz number of pixels on a sensor will increase from generation to generation. Then it should be 1/focal length X (variable). Simple enough? This is easy to understand if those who love photography! And it's a paradox!
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

When I wrote someone who doesn't know
someone may naturally think that this stuff is copy-and-paste

if u believe in maths
u can go through it easily

also reflex仔 do u mind telling me that u insist reflex lens mirror is mafe of mercury?

每次我好心教好你,你都唔信。
你真係點都唔知你錯連reflex仔支mirror係Ag做都唔知!
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KALKAL




註冊: 2007-02-06

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

哈哈~
真係開左TOPIC, 有中文就好了....

其實, 安全快門是否一條完整的公式?
如果只係一個概念, 冇建基係固定, 準碓既基礎上的話, 點計都冇意思的.
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698




註冊: 2010-03-12

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

又嚟!!!
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tam_dominic




註冊: 2002-10-12

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

In my humble opinion :

You are both right !

When the blur effect is measured on 1:1 display, reflexboy is right

When the blur effect is measured on fixed size print out eg 16 x 20 inches, obi-wan is right

Let us shoot happily and no war.

Happy shooting !
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reflexboy




註冊: 2009-02-23

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

dominic, 影相應從攝影方向考慮先,定還係從放相角度考慮先? ff機影o既野唔通唔可以放得更大?(In your case大過16X20) o甘safety shutter speed又應該點計? 又要諗o的野出來攪大佢?(倒果為因)? 呢o的就叫偽知識同偽科學.

仲有,井底之蛙大屍所講o既係人地o既料, 而我講o既係我o既料. 呢樣野都要清楚.

歡迎井底之蛙大屍再上網揾o的人地料出來反駁! I NEVER SAID I WAS RIGHT! BUT U CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG. THEN MAY BE I WAS RIGHT!
sounds familiar o可?
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

小朋友係度亂吹反射鏡用水銀造是否偽科學?
我用中文講多一次
reflex lens 反射鏡用銀silver 做反射面
你EQ 低到錯都唔肯大方地認,有曾sir風格喎!
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ibausu




註冊: 2009-06-06

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 10 日

安全快門這個問題其實有很多不同的說法。 好多人都會話 1/焦距 (35mm) ...但是根據紐約攝影學院,1/(2x焦距) 才是絕對安全快門速度。 當然最好就是用腳架啦! :P

小弟的Blog:
http://lovelightstudio.blogspot.com/
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九龍人




註冊: 2010-04-16

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 11 日

安全快門係幾多都好,一定要計埋crop factor.
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reflexboy




註冊: 2009-02-23

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 11 日

唉........大屍!睇吓你自己啲post. 對自己幾咁絕望! 真可憐!
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Obi-Wan




註冊: 2006-02-06

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 11 日

CPS/NPS member, u never answer my post

When u know u are wrong, u only play personal attack. (I don't mind personal attack on me, because it only shows the attacker no other evidences to support his view.)

This ends my play with u this round.

If u wanna play with me again
please
accept that what u said MERCURY is SILVER
OR
change to another name & play

**** I am not a CPS/NPS member, but I love to share photography knowledge with everyone ****
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reflexboy




註冊: 2009-02-23

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 11 日

你有能耐,歡迎任何時間出席,在下全天候恭候你,不過請再花多多多啲時間上網攞多啲人地啲野出來!

叫咗你吾好攪啲technical野!其實講啲可有可無嘅topic咪幾好!

good night!
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reflexboy




註冊: 2009-02-23

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 11 日

搬字過紙,不求什解,人云亦云,以耳為目,畫蛇添足,外强中乾,認屎認屁,自卑感強!

仲學人學雷台,不自量力!
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reflexboy




註冊: 2009-02-23

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題目Re: 安全快門 = ?     Post time: 6 月 11 日

呀.......大屍!吾記得提你多一樣野!在下都係一啲討論區嘅mod. 所以我知道mod可以做一啲特權。所以吾需要喺我面前表演!

仲記吾記得以前我層經叫過你sticky一啲thread???
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